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Blockbuster with Anaheim LTIR for Palat

Created by: PandB
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 26, 2021
Published: Jul. 26, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Hypothetical but definitely an exciting thought. Anaheim and Tampa fans, thoughts?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
2$925,000
1$925,000
1$925,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$5,500,000
1$980,000
2$1,250,000
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Gibson, John
  2. Manson, Josh
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. Koskinen, Mikko
  3. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
2.
TBL
  1. Klefbom, Oscar
  2. Stalock, Alex
  3. 2022 5th round pick (EDM)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (ANA)
Additional Details:
Better of the two 3rds (between Ana and edm)
3.
EDM
  1. 2022 4th round pick (WPG)
Additional Details:
Later of two fourths
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2022
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2023
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2024
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23$81,500,000$79,351,968$669,339$907,500$2,148,032
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$834,167$834,167 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
C
RFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,600,000$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,050,000$2,050,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,400,000$6,400,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$980,000$980,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2

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Jul. 26, 2021 at 11:20 a.m.
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That doesn't really seem like a good deal for the Ducks...
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Jul. 26, 2021 at 11:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
That doesn't really seem like a good deal for the Ducks...


Yeah, if Gibson does get moved it wont be to a division rival
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Jul. 26, 2021 at 11:26 a.m.
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The way I see it is broberg for Manson, and then two firsts for Gibbs. Koski balances books and the 3rd is two help balance what I feel is a slight overpay in each "trade" mentioned above. What needs to happen instead?
Jul. 26, 2021 at 11:27 a.m.
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As an Oilers Fan I love this!
I would structure the lines different try to run McD, Drai, Nuge, Martinook down the middle and play Palat on LW with Drai. (He played LW all last year)

I wish our GM had the creativity or the skills to pull this off.
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Jul. 26, 2021 at 11:29 a.m.
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Quoting: Salzy
Yeah, if Gibson does get moved it wont be to a division rival


Will Ana get 3 firsts for that anywhere else ?
Jul. 26, 2021 at 11:32 a.m.
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Quoting: PandB
Will Ana get 3 firsts for that anywhere else ?


Impossible to tell, They have no reason to trade Gibson though. Depending what Kuemper ends up getting as well, say he gets a first and a prospect, Gibson could easily get 3 firsts

I just dont see a scenario where they even listen to an offer (A realistic one) from a division rival for Gibson
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Jul. 26, 2021 at 7:38 p.m.
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Quoting: PandB
The way I see it is broberg for Manson, and then two firsts for Gibbs. Koski balances books and the 3rd is two help balance what I feel is a slight overpay in each "trade" mentioned above. What needs to happen instead?


Let's put aside the fact that "Koskinen balances the books" is a solution for YOUR problems, not ours, so he's not a plus for us.

You're approaching this from the point of view of what YOU want to pay for Gibson. Instead, you should look at this from the PoV of the team who's trading him away.

Gibson solves the question of who we start in goal for the majority of our games for the next six years. To put some perspective on that number, note that McDavid's and Draisaitl's contracts will have expired by then, as will every other current contract you have except for Nugent-Hopkins'. Consider that seriously for a moment.

Anaheim has three major weaknesses: (1) lack of scoring talent in general; (2) lack of quality at RW; and (3) lack of quality at RD. Trading Gibson to address just one of those problem areas is foolish because creating a hole in net to cure a hole somewhere else is just playing whack-a-mole because unlike Las Vegas or the Islanders, we don't have a guy to step right in to replace Gibson. So any trade for Gibson has to at least offer the hope of filling two of those holes. So something along the lines of Holloway or Yamamoto, Bouchard and your 2022 first would be reasonable. Now add in the value of one year of Josh Manson, which is roughly a second and a good prospect (i.e., what Ristolainen SHOULD have gotten), and you have what we think is fair value for that duo.
Jul. 27, 2021 at 2:28 a.m.
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Let's put aside the fact that "Koskinen balances the books" is a solution for YOUR problems, not ours, so he's not a plus for us.

You're approaching this from the point of view of what YOU want to pay for Gibson. Instead, you should look at this from the PoV of the team who's trading him away.

Gibson solves the question of who we start in goal for the majority of our games for the next six years. To put some perspective on that number, note that McDavid's and Draisaitl's contracts will have expired by then, as will every other current contract you have except for Nugent-Hopkins'. Consider that seriously for a moment.

Anaheim has three major weaknesses: (1) lack of scoring talent in general; (2) lack of quality at RW; and (3) lack of quality at RD. Trading Gibson to address just one of those problem areas is foolish because creating a hole in net to cure a hole somewhere else is just playing whack-a-mole because unlike Las Vegas or the Islanders, we don't have a guy to step right in to replace Gibson. So any trade for Gibson has to at least offer the hope of filling two of those holes. So something along the lines of Holloway or Yamamoto, Bouchard and your 2022 first would be reasonable. Now add in the value of one year of Josh Manson, which is roughly a second and a good prospect (i.e., what Ristolainen SHOULD have gotten), and you have what we think is fair value for that duo.


So my trade pays for Gibson, so then
ultimately your ask is another second and a prospect like Lavoie, (and no 3rd coming back.....).

Definitely something both sides consider...
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