Van isn’t trading Pettersson, but your value is closer to Lias Andersen than Elias Pettersson

I don’t think Vancouver trades Pettersson, and because they are in a win now mode I don’t know that this trade makes sense. With that being said the value looks much better than many of the other trades I have seen on here, pretty close I would say.

Really a return of a soon to be UFA middle of the road 28 year old center, a FOA winger who may/may not develop into a star and a second is a good return for a 22 year on all star center?

You said the package is closer to Lias Andersen...a soon to be 23 year old that has barely cracked the NHL

Canuck fans always overvalue their players

I was being hyperbolic wrt to Lias as a joke.

Here's a hint, fans over value their players in every sport.

This offer in particular does severely undervalue Pettersson. It's not even close.

We’re talking about a guy who’s never even cracked 70 points in Pettersen… Lafrieniere is a damn near generational talent


He had an NHLe of 50 at 17 years old

Before you say “BuT hAd No SuCcEsS aT tHe NhL lEvEl” Marleau and Messier had similar statistical 18 year old seasons. It’s called maturing and going from playing 19 year olds to entire grown men

What are you talking about? I'll let The Athletic writers reply to your comment about Pettersson:

"Pettersson is a game-breaker, an elite center at the age of 22 that can be The Guy on a legitimate Cup contender. Those types of players aren’t easy to find, especially entering their prime."

Canucks fans are the best at overvaluing players

Saying this package is not even close is outrageous

What do you mean “what are you talking about.” Lafrieniere will likely be better than Pettersen. Not demeaning Pettersen and his ability as a player just using cold unbiased factual evidence to prove the truth

Your comments are curios. You give your opinion on who you believe will be better and then say it's "cold hard factual evidence to prove the truth." What is this cold hard evidence?

This entire statement is factual evidence. My only opinion was my personal definition of generational

This trade is fair in terms of value.

It includes Alexis Lafreniere in it.

What the **** are you on?

And for the record, I wouldn't do it from NYR POV anyway lol

LOL Pettersson broke Peter Forsberg's record in the SHL as a rookie, his team won the cup and he was MVP. In his first 2 seasons of the NHL, Pettersson had the exact same points as Auston Mathews, more than Eichel or Draisaitl in their first 2 seasons.

How many did LaFreniere get in his first season again?

Ok… anyways, Pettersens first season means nothing to this argument and neither does his SHL season. Nobody is arguing Pettersen has had more success at the NHL level. Doesn’t make him a more valuable asset. We’ve already been over why Lafrienieres first season is unimportant at best to this argument and his value as an asset.

Ok let's ignore the facts then.

Let’s ignore 4 and 5 years ago, yes. I think that’d be fair

lol cry abt quinn hughes

How does this have anything to do with Quinn Hughes?

I'll keep the receipts. Let's see how Pettersson does this season.

No one said Pettersson is a bad player

The big problem is you saying this package is not even close

Yes, I know that you are having trouble with this, but I believe Pettersson is an elite player and that package is not representative.

I'm curious to hear what you think a fair EP to NYR trade would be if he were to be traded

My context is that number centers are the most valued asset in the NHL. A young number center who is already an all star and has had comparable first 2 seasons as the premier centers in the NHL (Mathews, Daraisaitl) would net a premier return. And he's only 22.

Trade packages for these types players usually involve a player, prospect and picks.

Since NY doesn't have a comparable asset, the next most valued asset would be a RHD. I don't think NY is trading Fox. Vancouver would need a good young RHD coming back.

Therefore, I believe a fair value package would be Kakko (LaFrenier would be preferred, but understand that reluctance there); the better of Lunkvist/Miller; first & third round round picks. The third round pick is because with Pettersson, NY's first round pick should be a late one.

That's a solid offer

I'm not sure why you're acting like Lafreinere for Pettersson is "not even close"