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Created by: TCMonkey

Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 21, 2021

Published: Aug. 21, 2021

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Ottawa get a very experienced (in regular season play) pivot in Tavares and the move shows Tkachuk and the young guns that they are willing to spend money. Tavares has 4 years remaining and will be gone before our young core comes off their bridge contracts - adding him will not fudge the rebuild. Toronto creates some much needed cap space by getting rid of the $11M hit for a Tavares at age 31 through 34. They add 24 y/o Colin White who can play pivot or RW and (calling it now) is about to have a solid bounce back season. The cap they clear would allow them to improve their HORRIFIC D or nab Cizikas or Zajac for a year for pivot depth.

Bozak gets a one-year deal and starts with Tavares and Stützle. Hopefully they click and he pads his stats so we can move him at the deadline for a decent pick, shift Connor Brown to the 2nd line and bring in one of our many Belleville wingers to fill the open spot.

Logan Brown gets a legit, low pressure, shot playing with 2 players he knows very well. He and Nick Paul had a very successful season together in Belleville and I'm no fan of the "Logan Brown needs to play with talented top 6 players to succeed" pitch. If he wants that spot he can earn it.

I feel like this team could potentially make it into the playoffs and potentially knock Toronto out in the first round because that's what God wants.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Batherson, Drake	3	$3,500,000
Tkachuk, Brady	8	$8,200,000
Gustavsson, Filip	2	$1,100,000
Brown, Logan	2	$1,100,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Bozak, Tyler		1	$3,250,000

Trades

OTT

2022 4th round pick (BUF)

BUF

Tierney, Chris

OTT

Tavares, John

TOR

White, Colin
2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
2022 4th round pick (BUF)

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $3,583,333
Dion Phaneuf: $354,167

Buried

Joshua Brown: $75,000 ($1,200,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$67,711,750	$0	$4,507,500	$13,788,250

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,200,000$8,200,000 LW UFA - 7	Norris, Joshua $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) C UFA - 1	Batherson, Drake $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 6
Stützle, Tim $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 4	Bozak, Tyler $3,250,000$3,250,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Formenton, Alex $747,500$747,500 ($107,500$108K) LW RFA - 1	Pinto, Shane $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) C RFA - 2	Brown, Connor $3,600,000$3,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Paul, Nicholas $749,250$749,250 C, LW UFA - 1	Brown, Logan $1,100,000$1,100,000 C, LW RFA - 1	Kelly, Parker $726,667$726,667 LW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 7	Zub, Artem $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Holden, Nick $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD UFA - 1	Zaitsev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3
Del Zotto, Michael $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD UFA - 2	Brännström, Erik $863,333$863,333 ($450,000$450K) LD/RD, LW RFA - 1	Gustavsson, Filip $1,100,000$1,100,000 G UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Watson, Austin $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Mete, Victor $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Tkachuk, B.		Tavares, J.		Norris, J.
	Chabot, T.		Batherson, D.

Power Play 2
Brown, L.		Bozak, T.		Stützle, T.
	Brown, C.		Brännström, E.

Penalty Kill 1
	Paul, N.	Brown, C.
	Holden, N.	Zaitsev, N.

Penalty Kill 2
	Formenton, A.	Pinto, S.
	Chabot, T.	Zub, A.

Aug. 21, 2021 at 9:18 a.m.

JG1972

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what’s with all the tavares trades today?

Aug. 21, 2021 at 9:27 a.m.

TCMonkey

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Quoting: JG1972

what’s with all the tavares trades today?

I don't know, I saw the one from @jake6ix_deep that was Tavares for the TBL 2nd and it got me wondering...

Aug. 21, 2021 at 9:27 a.m.

JG1972

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tavares would never wave his NMC for ottawa. he wants to win now. Toronto thinks they can (but they won’t) and he won’t leave the city in his final decent years of his career to go to a rebuilding team.

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Aug. 21, 2021 at 9:39 a.m.

TCMonkey

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Quoting: JG1972

He knows Toronto is not a contender, and he knows there is no CURRENT contending team that could take him and still be cap compliant without giving up a piece/pieces that would make them LESS of a contender. But I get that he's a hometown boy and would likely rather fail in Toronto than go to Ottawa where he'd have a legit shot by 22-23 / 23-24. Even with NO TRADES, next season Sanderson and Bernard-Docker join our D core and Grieg and Boucher join the forwards.... ohhhhhh baby.... Tavares doesn't see it then he truly belongs in a Leaf jersey!

Aug. 21, 2021 at 10:47 a.m.

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If Toronto wants to move on from Tavares, the only way he accepts to move his NMC to go to Ottawa is because he wants to be geographically close to "home". And as it's the case with the vast majority of players, he also probably wants to win so he has to think they'd get much closer with him.

Quoting: JG1972

With Tavares, Sens would probably have a better shot at winning a playoff round than the Leafs. Yes, Ottawa has been rebuilding but the depth they have been developing is stacked at every position except maybe Center and RD as it depends on several things (like if Stutzle eventually transitions to center, how good JBD will be, will they extend Zub?, etc). They are on the verge of breaking out as demonstrated in the 2nd half of last season. Actually, after the first 15 games, they were 15th OA in P% the rest of the season. If they didn't have such a poor start, they would have been the ones playing the Leafs in the first round

Stutzle-Tavares-Brown
Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson
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Aug. 21, 2021 at 10:48 a.m.

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Why is nobody here talking about how god awful that return is for the Leafs?

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Aug. 21, 2021 at 11:04 a.m.

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this return for the leafs is rlly bad. give us Norris, Stützle or Batherson to start

Aug. 21, 2021 at 11:26 a.m.

TCMonkey

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Quoting: Nate

Why is nobody here talking about how god awful that return is for the Leafs?

Not sure what you're imagining a "fair" return is. This is a bigger return than many of the trades I've seen on here that were posted BY LEAF FANS.

Aug. 21, 2021 at 11:27 a.m.

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Quoting: Ryancnbb

this return for the leafs is rlly bad. give us Norris, Stützle or Batherson to start

"To start" - Hilarious.

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Aug. 21, 2021 at 11:47 a.m.

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Quoting: Xspyrit

I like your line up but White is going the other way in the trade which is why I signed Bozak for a single season (ideally to be moved at the deadline).

Aug. 21, 2021 at 12:19 p.m.

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Quoting: TCMonkey

Not sure what you're imagining a "fair" return is. This is a bigger return than many of the trades I've seen on here that were posted BY LEAF FANS.

Have you ever been on ACGM? Why dont you guys give us Tkachuk for Kerfoot and a couple picks

Aug. 21, 2021 at 12:41 p.m.

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I fail to see why Toronto would trade Tavares. One of the only Leafs who seems to play with heart and genuinely wants to be playing in Toronto

Aug. 21, 2021 at 12:42 p.m.

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Quoting: Nate

Have you ever been on ACGM? Why dont you guys give us Tkachuk for Kerfoot and a couple picks

Yes. I've been on ACGM for many years, and I suppose if we were paying Tkachuk $11M to be on our 2nd line and thought he was what we were missing to succeed in the playoffs but had failed 3 years straight to advance after acquiring him and he were turning 31... yeah... I might be willing to get back most of that money for a younger player and picks so that I can fix my attrocious defense that will for sure keep my team from having ANY kind of success.

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Aug. 21, 2021 at 12:48 p.m.

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Quoting: TCMonkey

Alright well evidently you didnt watch the Leafs this year. The defense was hardly changed this year from start to finish because it was actually good. Our defense was not the issue. The issue in the playoffs was that none of the core 4 could get a goal to save their lives. Not sure if you missed it, but Tavares played all of 10 minutes before suffering the most unlucky injury I have seen. Tavares put up 40 goal upon joining the Leafs, and has been a PPG since. He is our captain, and he also has a NMC that he is not waiving, he evidently wants to be in Toronto and is the leader of this group. Tavares is not a player you dump for capspace, he is a bonified first line center and if you genuinely think Colin White and a few picks gets you Tavares, you are sorely mistaken. A return starts with a good prospect and a first round pick, but even at that you need a replacement to fill the colossal hole left in Tavares' absence. When he went down in the plays, you noticed immediately how underrated the guy is and how integral he is to the team. Colin White does not get you an elite center. I cannot believe you genuinely think that return is at all acceptable

Aug. 21, 2021 at 1:16 p.m.

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Quoting: Skyraider112

I fail to see why Toronto would trade Tavares. One of the only Leafs who seems to play with heart and genuinely wants to be playing in Toronto

You're not wrong. Until they cut Dubas loose they are very much sleeping in the bed they made.
I just saw a bunch of Tavares trades popping up on here and thought I'd have some fun. I could see adding Brannstrom to make it more reasonable, but no way do I make that the starting offer.
But the Leafs won't get BETTER goaltending than they got these past playoffs, they did nothing to improve their D, and their bottom 6 is nowhere near good enough to get out of round one.
This coming season is for sure the last kick at the can Dubas gets if they falter.

Aug. 22, 2021 at 9:20 a.m.

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Quoting: Ryancnbb

this return for the leafs is rlly bad. give us Norris, Stützle or Batherson to start

That would totally thwart the reasoning of doing this move for Ottawa and also really doubt Tavares vs contract/age is worth any piece like that

That being said, I think he would be worth more that what is proposed in the OP

I'd personally do 1st round pick, Logan Brown and Erik Brannstrom.

But Toronto should NOT move Tavares. I think they should try to move Marner+Sandin+pick for Chychrun and Keller for example (well, if Arizona would be interested in doing that, not sure)

Quoting: TCMonkey

I like your line up but White is going the other way in the trade which is why I signed Bozak for a single season (ideally to be moved at the deadline).

Oh yeah forgot White going the other way in your example proposal.

It's probably because I don't think Ottawa will trade him. Because of his contract, his value won't ever be good and they might believe he can go back closer to his rookie season in terms of production than his last 2 years although he improved in other areas. He's also Thomas Chabot best friend and is apparently really appreciated by everyone in the organization

What more would Ottawa have to give if you change White to Tierney? lol

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Aug. 22, 2021 at 4:10 p.m.

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Quoting: Nate

Leafs may very well miss the playoff this year, they are not better than Tampa or Boston, Florida and MTL are wildcards and could be better than leafs, Sens are a enigma, could play like they did at start of last season or like they did at end of last season and the Metro has many strong teams that could push Leafs out of a wild card spot.

Aug. 22, 2021 at 4:23 p.m.

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Quoting: athrin

So instead of battling for a playoff spot, lets go off of a maybe and trade our second best center, only behind the guy who just won the Rocket Richard. Genius. Tampa is still a very good team, but their depth took a HARD hit. Boston and Florida are legitimate threats, but Krejci's departure is a massive blow to the Bruins. I cannot believe people are underrating the Leafs so much

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