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Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 5, 2021
Published: Sep. 5, 2021
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7$7,000,000
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20$81,500,000$82,266,783$0$0-$766,783
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G
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
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$894,167$894,167
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Taxi Squad
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$1,500,000$1,500,000 ($375,000$375K$375,000$375K)
C
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$2,500,000$2,500,000 ($1,375,000$1M$1,375,000$1M)
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$725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
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Sep. 5, 2021 at 1:29 a.m.
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Flames still decline
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Sep. 5, 2021 at 1:31 a.m.
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GO FLAMES GO
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You don't get Either Tkachuk for either those deals
Sep. 5, 2021 at 1:46 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Flames still decline


you=🤡, marner is a mile better than tkachuk
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Sep. 5, 2021 at 2:14 a.m.
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you=🤡, marner is a mile better than tkachuk


Lol ok bud, if you have no idea what you are talking about I suggest not talking at all qllmSLi.png
Sep. 5, 2021 at 8:16 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Lol ok bud, if you have no idea what you are talking about I suggest not talking at all qllmSLi.png


Is that the only stat that shows Tkachuk is better? Marner would add 25 goals from himself and another 25 goals extra added to the players on his line. I would rather keep Marner.
Sep. 5, 2021 at 9:08 a.m.
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Is that the only stat that shows Tkachuk is better? Marner would add 25 goals from himself and another 25 goals extra added to the players on his line. I would rather keep Marner.


That is 5 different stats there and they are some of the best for showing a players overall game.

How can Marner add 25 goals for himself if hes literally only scored 25+ once in his career? That doesnt even make sense. The only thing Marner is much better than Tkachuk at is passing the puck to a superstar goal scorer. Thachuk doesnt even get that option. Tkachuk however is as good or better defensively, way more physical, one of the best in the league in penalties drawn, and an actual team leader. Oh not to mention he is not overpaid
Sep. 5, 2021 at 9:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Lol ok bud, if you have no idea what you are talking about I suggest not talking at all qllmSLi.png


You do realize Marner is a passer hence why his CF/60 is lower, yet he still controlled the xGF/60 and xGA/60. There’s also a reason why Tkachuk was only able to score over at a ppg only twicein his career. It’s because he plays second line competition. His EV toi is significantly lower than Marner and Tkachuk doesn’t even kill penalties.

In this deal Toronto overpaid and trying to bring up advanced stats with little to no context doesn’t help you’re case as it was easy to debunk.
Sep. 5, 2021 at 10:40 a.m.
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Marner rocks
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you=🤡, marner is a mile better than tkachuk


not even close. Top 4 in scoring for a guy that is good at what he does but isn't in the same galaxy in talent. Leafs would need more then just him for Marner.
Sep. 5, 2021 at 10:54 a.m.
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Quoting: MauriceArthur15
You do realize Marner is a passer hence why his CF/60 is lower, yet he still controlled the xGF/60 and xGA/60. There’s also a reason why Tkachuk was only able to score over at a ppg only twicein his career. It’s because he plays second line competition. His EV toi is significantly lower than Marner and Tkachuk doesn’t even kill penalties.

In this deal Toronto overpaid and trying to bring up advanced stats with little to no context doesn’t help you’re case as it was easy to debunk.


What? Marner literally had the 3rd most shots on the leafs this year, 5 more shots than Tkachuk this season. xGF and xGA are completely unrelated to CF. Tkachuk has played his entire career in a shutdown role and always against the opponents top line. His QoC this year was 98%. The only reason Marner kis penalties and Tkachuk doesn’t is because Calgary has had elite PKer's for years and Toronto has never had that.

Toronto fans are the only fanbase that would prefer Marner over Tkachuk, especially when you factor in contracts
Sep. 5, 2021 at 11:21 a.m.
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Marner rocks
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
That is 5 different stats there and they are some of the best for showing a players overall game.

How can Marner add 25 goals for himself if hes literally only scored 25+ once in his career? That doesnt even make sense. The only thing Marner is much better than Tkachuk at is passing the puck to a superstar goal scorer. Thachuk doesnt even get that option. Tkachuk however is as good or better defensively, way more physical, one of the best in the league in penalties drawn, and an actual team leader. Oh not to mention he is not overpaid

Better defensively then Marner, only Brad Marchand is a better 2 way forward then Marner. By the sounds of it Thachuk doesn't even play the pk.
Sep. 5, 2021 at 11:41 a.m.
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Better defensively then Marner, only Brad Marchand is a better 2 way forward then Marner. By the sounds of it Thachuk doesn't even play the pk.


Uh Mark Stone is by far the best 2-way winger in rhe league. Not playing the PK does not make someone who does play PK better defensively.
Sep. 5, 2021 at 11:42 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
That is 5 different stats there and they are some of the best for showing a players overall game.

How can Marner add 25 goals for himself if hes literally only scored 25+ once in his career? That doesnt even make sense. The only thing Marner is much better than Tkachuk at is passing the puck to a superstar goal scorer. Thachuk doesnt even get that option. Tkachuk however is as good or better defensively, way more physical, one of the best in the league in penalties drawn, and an actual team leader. Oh not to mention he is not overpaid[/quote

If Tkachuk is better defensively, they why didn't you show those stats. Marner can actually pass the puck to anyone, he doesn't need a star (career year for Kadri). The two players are not really comparable, they play a different game, but Marner is better then Tkachuk in many ways. I would love to have Tkachuk, but not at the cost of Marner.
Sep. 5, 2021 at 11:45 a.m.
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qllmSLi.png


Just adding more stats to the discussion:



Sep. 5, 2021 at 11:51 a.m.
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If Tkachuk is better defensively, they why didn't you show those stats. Marner can actually pass the puck to anyone, he doesn't need a star (career year for Kadri). The two players are not really comparable, they play a different game, but Marner is better then Tkachuk in many ways. I would love to have Tkachuk, but not at the cost of Marner.

I literally showed the defensive stats lol
Sep. 5, 2021 at 11:54 a.m.
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
Just adding more stats to the discussion:





Alright as an outside opinion, contracts considered would you rather have Matthew Tkachuk or Mitch Marner on your team (assume Tkachuk extends with good term since thinking otherwise defeats the purpose)
Sep. 5, 2021 at 12:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Alright as an outside opinion, contracts considered would you rather have Matthew Tkachuk or Mitch Marner on your team (assume Tkachuk extends with good term since thinking otherwise defeats the purpose)

Marner because hes a way better player, normally you have to pay for really good players
Sep. 5, 2021 at 12:04 p.m.
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Is that the only stat that shows Tkachuk is better? Marner would add 25 goals from himself and another 25 goals extra added to the players on his line. I would rather keep Marner.

no cap
Sep. 5, 2021 at 12:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Lol ok bud, if you have no idea what you are talking about I suggest not talking at all qllmSLi.png

can you read the chart? more goals get scored and less go in his own net when hes on the ice, the only thing tkachuk has is his corsi. Corsi means nothing if you dont finish your chances.
Sep. 5, 2021 at 12:15 p.m.
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can you read the chart? more goals get scored and less go in his own net when hes on the ice, the only thing tkachuk has is his corsi. Corsi means nothing if you dont finish your chances.


I can read the chart, can you? it clearly shows that Tkachuk has a about the same xGA and a way better GA.

Blue is good, red is bad. the "Against" stats are inverted so being good is above the standard deviation line instead of below
Sep. 5, 2021 at 12:16 p.m.
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Marner because hes a way better player, normally you have to pay for really good players


Dude? You are not an outside opinion, LMFAO.
Sep. 5, 2021 at 12:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Alright as an outside opinion, contracts considered would you rather have Matthew Tkachuk or Mitch Marner on your team (assume Tkachuk extends with good term since thinking otherwise defeats the purpose)


It's hard to consider with contracts since Tkachuk only has 1 year left. If he extends with good term what's the AAV?
Sep. 5, 2021 at 12:34 p.m.
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It's hard to consider with contracts since Tkachuk only has 1 year left. If he extends with good term what's the AAV?


Well that was my point, Tkachuk would have to extend with term of the conversation is irrelevant. If I had to guess an AAV for him I would say 8.5-9M since Calgary probably files for arbitration to void the QO
Sep. 5, 2021 at 12:42 p.m.
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Well that was my point, Tkachuk would have to extend with term of the conversation is irrelevant. If I had to guess an AAV for him I would say 8.5-9M since Calgary probably files for arbitration to void the QO


Id go Marner but wouldnt be surprised if others took Tkachuk. I think the difference in play is enough to justify an extra 2M cap hit

It depends on the team around them too, Marner has 4 years left but if Tkachuk signs for 7-8 years at that AAV then it could end up as better value later on. If the window is now I would take Marner
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