Yeah, right. You would also like NJD to retain some salary? That is very very very optimistic. Wood is worth at the very least 1st round pick + prospect, he is also RFA. If you don't believe me wait untill TDL or look at TBL's previous trades (Goodrow, Coleman). Power-forwards are expensive.

incoming devils fans trying to tell you wood is worth matthews+marner

Wild have no interest in that package. If none of the players you're giving have NHL-pedigree, why should we give a good 4th line C?

Also, our depth at center is one of the weakest in the league. We are not moving centers, especially for useless spare parts.

Some fair points especially the trade comps. I would think Wood costs something in between Coleman and Goodrow. Der-Arguchintsev is a decent prospect and Mikheyev can probably be flipped at the TDL for a 2nd/3rd rounder or re-signed. I'd place this deal just above the Goodrow return and beneath the Coleman return.

Someone who has never even been on a 40 point pace season doesn't get a 1st not to mention a prospect above it. You compare him for Goodrow and Coleman yet ignore that Tampa overpaid for them, something other teams havn't followed them doing. Their price was regardless of the market not a new marker for it.

Engvall is also a C and actually spent a fair amount of time playing as our 3rd line C with the HEM line. Add in Minny home-bred Anderson who the Leafs were high enough on to give up a 20 goal scorer in Johnsson who had decent value at the time. To say these are useless spare parts, you're essentially saying that 1/4 of your team is useless.

Sure, you can say it is an overpayment... or a fair value. Real power-forwards are rare and therefore expensive. I would argue PF with 20 goals or 40 points in a season is more valuable than meh winger with 25 goals or 55 points. PF who sometimes can play top-6 is valuable to any team, let alone contenders. Their value increases in TDLs. I expect TBL to reach for another PF this TDL, others will also search for that kind of help.

Rare enough that no one has come willing to pay that for Woods or anyone else like him for 2 offseasons and a trade deadline now. Also with a 1st and a prospect, you arn't comparing him to a 25 goal or 55 point winger, you are comparing him to Sam Reinhart, a close to 40 goal scoring center. Thats how ridiculous your value of Wood is.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/308013
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/311730

Happend 1.5 years and 2 Stanley cups ago.

So ... 2 off seasons and a trade deadline ago. Nice of you to show I was correct. The fact so long has passed, with a few power forwards being moved in the mean time, and no team has paid close to it for someone the quality of Woods just goes to show that the market disagrees with how much you are demanding. With a 1st and a prospect, you arn't comparing him to a 25 goal or 55 point winger, you are comparing him to Sam Reinhart, a close to 40 goal scoring center. You are also in the realm of the Dvorak trade, a 25 goal scoring center on a steal of a deal for 4 more seasons of term. Its especially hilarious you are considering him more valuable than Dvorak seeing as he doesn't have the kind of term remaining as an RFA that Dvorak is already under contract for. Thats how ridiculous your value of Wood is.

And that ridiculous price TBL payed twice already. You're right. Stanley cups are not important.

i like that you traded malgin when he isnt even in the nhl hes in the swiss league

Wow, that's a stack of garbage you're offering.

Didn't Malgin just sign a 4-year deal in Switzerland?

Ya, didn't think you could argue the recent comparables. Miles Wood, more valuable than Christian Dvorak according to a Devils fan.

Your valuation of Anderson is not our business. Ken Holland valued Keith over Jones, but that doesn't make Keith any good. Anderson is barely an NHL-player and does not move the needle one bit. Engvall is a question mark, so I'd choose Sturm over him every day of the week.

This trade is certainly not in our favour. We need Sturm, we don't need any of the players you are giving us, however.

Problem is that Devils aren't likely to be the same type of seller as when Coleman was dealt, and that Wood's contract status rather different from Coleman's.
Both Sharks and Devils knew that they wouldn't be good enough to at least push for the playoffs within the last years of Goodrow and Coleman, but this year Devils should be competitive throughout the season, be it playoffs or not, and still have leverage in Wood's upcoming contract negotiation.

The deal presented for Wood here is nowhere near good enough for Devils to accept and especially with retention, whether it'd be today or at the TDL. Toronto would have to be willing to part with their 1st rd pick, for starters.

I am not a Devils fan. You might be surprised but both Wood and Dvorak scored 17 G this season. I can argue average middle-6 C has roughly the same value as quality middle-6 PF. But quality PFs are hard to acquire. That's why are they usually not available.

Woods contract isn't that much different. He's 26 this season with an arbitration that will walk him to free agency. He's actually in the exact same situation as Coleman was contract wise, only Woods isn't as good a player and is paid more.

You could argue that but you wouldn't be able to show it with evidence. You'd just look dumb trying it.

Why would it walk him to free agency? Probably he is good enough as some Leafs fan would like to give up 4 pieces for him . But not the right pieces

Because you turn into an unrestricted free agent your first season after hitting 27 and arbitration deals are 1 year at his age.

Name average middle-6 Cs in the league. How many are there, 30, 50, 70? And ow many quality PFs are out there? 10? 20? Not much.

Why would he not sign???

Please elaborate

Why would the Devils get value for someone unsigned? He has the option to go to free agency, thats why his RFA status isn't worth anything. He is under guaranteed team control for 1 more season after this one, the same Coleman was.



So no evidence, I'm not surprised.