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Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 3, 2021
Published: Sep. 10, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
Trades
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  1. Wood, Miles ($1,375,000 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,374,783$0$0$125,217

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,375,000$1,375,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,800,000$3,800,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$796,667$796,667 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
D
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW
UFA - 1

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Sep. 10, 2021 at 3:31 a.m.
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Edited Sep. 10, 2021 at 3:39 a.m.
Quoting: EccE
Please elaborate


Sturm-Rau-Rask-Gaudreau-Bjugstad, you can pretty much interchange any of them with Engvall and even Anderson. Hence if Engvall/Anderson are useless parts so are the aforementioned. And Anderson though still unproven, has the potential to surpass all of them.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 3:39 a.m.
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Quoting: Byrr
Why would the Devils get value for someone unsigned? He has the option to go to free agency, thats why his RFA status isn't worth anything. He is under guaranteed team control for 1 more season after this one, the same Coleman was.

Obviously our interpretation of RFA status is not the same. RFA isn't worth anything? Wow.

So no evidence, I'm not surprised.


And you're not denying PFs are more scarce than Cs but that's not an evidence. I've heard it enough. You just trade that pack to NJD, I am sure they will gladly accept it and send you a gift basket.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 3:41 a.m.
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Quoting: Stavros99
Sturm-Rau-Rask-Gaudreau, you can pretty much interchange any of them with Engvall and even Anderson. Hence if Engvall/Anderson are useless parts so are the aforementioned.


In this trade, you are saying Sturm is better than Engvall, as you are the one adding assets. Therefore, we can agree that Sturm > Engvall. Rau is an AHLer, just like Anderson. We want to get rid of Rask so yeah, he is useless. Doesn't prove anything. He is our 13th forward. And Gaudreau, well, he is a no-risk addition, a spare part. That's not 1/4 of our roster, that is two players. Those two count a solid 8% of our team grin
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Sep. 10, 2021 at 3:42 a.m.
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Edited Sep. 10, 2021 at 3:49 a.m.
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Obviously ourinterpretation of RFA status is not the same. RFA isn't worth anything? Wow. And you're not denying PFs are more scarce than Cs but that's not an evidence. I've heard it enough. You just trade that pack to NJD, I am sure they will gladly accept it and send you a gift basket.


Your interpretation of RFA status and its value is wrong in this case and I can show you why. As a 26 year old who's arbitration eligible next season, Woods doesn't have team control. He could sign a new deal on July 1st, so could have Coleman. He could also choose not to sign a new deal, like Coleman. He would then go to arbitration, be awarded a 1 year deal and leave after that season, like Coleman did. RFA status is valuable because it guarantees team control for a number of years. In Wood's case, that guaranteed control is 2 years, like Tampa had with Coleman. There's no extra value in not having signed that 1 year deal yet. If anything its a hit to his value because his salary isn't a guaranteed number for year #2, it adds uncertainty.

You made the claim that you could argue this, not me. So far you havn't made arguments, you've just made claims without supporting evidence.
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Sep. 10, 2021 at 3:48 a.m.
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Edited Sep. 10, 2021 at 4:10 a.m.
Quoting: EccE
In this trade, you are saying Sturm is better than Engvall, as you are the one adding assets. Therefore, we can agree that Sturm > Engvall. Rau is an AHLer, just like Anderson. We want to get rid of Rask so yeah, he is useless. Doesn't prove anything. He is our 13th forward. And Gaudreau, well, he is a no-risk addition, a spare part. That's not 1/4 of our roster, that is two players. Those two count a solid 8% of our team grin


Lol Sturm and Engvall are overall probably equal. I do like what Sturm brings as far as energy, leadership and some untapped potential but also helps tidy up our cap and roster. IMO, this trade helps both parties. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this smile
Sep. 10, 2021 at 3:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Byrr
Your interpretation of RFA status and its value is wrong in this case and I can show you why. As a 26 year old who's arbitration eligible next season, Woods doesn't have team control. He could sign a new deal on July 1st, so could have Coleman. He could also choose not to sign a new deal, like Coleman. He would then go to arbitration, be awarded a 1 year deal and leave after that season, like Coleman did. RFA status is valuable because it guarantees team control for a number of years. In Wood's case, that guaranteed control is 2 years, like Tampa had with Coleman. There's no extra value in not having signed that 1 year deal yet.

You made the claim that you could argue this, not me. So far you havn't arguments, you've just made claims without supporting evidence.


If Leafs' management is the same as their fans I understand Wood would not re-sign. In all other cases, yes. No problems, give him a term. On the other hand, if the player is not motivated you don't want him on a team anyway. But that is not the case here.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 3:51 a.m.
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Lol Sturm and Engvall are overall probably equal. I do like what Sturm brings as far as energy and some leadership though and most of all he helps with our cap situation. IMO, this trade helps both parties. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this smile


Too bad you need two parties to agree on a deal. Minny sure as hell won't take that, no matter how hard you try to prove yourself it makes us better.
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Sep. 10, 2021 at 3:55 a.m.
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If Leafs' management is the same as their fans I understand Wood would not re-sign. In all other cases, yes. No problems, give him a term. On the other hand, if the player is not motivated you don't want him on a team anyway. But that is not the case here.


The problem for you isn't whether Woods is re-signed or not, its whether the Devils get value in a trade for him re-signing a contract they had nothing to do with ... and they don't. The Devils get value for the 2 guaranteed years Woods plays as a Leaf. The same 2 guaranteed years the Lightning got with Coleman.
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Sep. 10, 2021 at 3:57 a.m.
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Edited Sep. 10, 2021 at 4:18 a.m.
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i like that you traded malgin when he isnt even in the nhl hes in the swiss league


Yeah its the throw in of all throw ins just trying to return the favor for Menell. Perhaps his fellow countryman Fiala can sway him if there's even an out in his contact that this.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 4:00 a.m.
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The problem for you isn't whether Woods is re-signed or not, its whether the Devils get value in a trade for him re-signing a contract they had nothing to do with ... and they don't. The Devils get value for the 2 guaranteed years Woods plays as a Leaf. The same 2 guaranteed years the Lightning got with Coleman.


No problem. We will not come together and nothing is wrong with that. Good luck with shopping Mikheyev and acquiring Wood, it might not be as simple.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 4:06 a.m.
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No problem. We will not come together and nothing is wrong with that. Good luck with shopping Mikheyev and acquiring Wood, it might not be as simple.


Can't help someone that wants to ignore the evidence available. Its like showing that 1+1=2 and having someone tell you you are wrong but won't try to show why. Good luck waiting on a 1st + a prospect for Woods. You'll never get it.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 7:40 a.m.
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Sep. 10, 2021 at 8:55 a.m.
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It always makes me cringe when I see the Leafs and Chara in the same sentence. Dude doesn’t belong in Toronto and he’s 44, it’s not gonna happen.

The only 35+ player who was great on the Leafs was Spezza
Sep. 10, 2021 at 11:08 a.m.
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Devils aren't giving away Wood.
Would have to tee up more than that.
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Sep. 10, 2021 at 11:08 a.m.
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incoming devils fans trying to tell you wood is worth matthews+marner


He is not, but if you are offering, we'll take it.
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Sep. 10, 2021 at 12:52 p.m.
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Someone who has never even been on a 40 point pace season doesn't get a 1st not to mention a prospect above it. You compare him for Goodrow and Coleman yet ignore that Tampa overpaid for them, something other teams havn't followed them doing. Their price was regardless of the market not a new marker for it.


Maybe that's why T.B was sipping from the cup 2 years straight. That team has taken a major hit loosing those 2 guys who lead their team in hits.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 4:04 p.m.
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Maybe that's why T.B was sipping from the cup 2 years straight. That team has taken a major hit loosing those 2 guys who lead their team in hits.


Meanwhile Miles Wood had less hits than even Rielly last season.
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Sep. 10, 2021 at 5:46 p.m.
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Devils aren't doing that
Sep. 10, 2021 at 6:45 p.m.
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It always makes me cringe when I see the Leafs and Chara in the same sentence. Dude doesn’t belong in Toronto and he’s 44, it’s not gonna happen.

The only 35+ player who was great on the Leafs was Spezza


Last year showed he still had something left in the tank as the leading PK ice getter for 5th best PK in the league. And he wouldn't be there to anchor our d or anything. Used properly, he could still provide some good value to a team. No harm whatsoever in giving him a flyer.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 6:51 p.m.
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Meanwhile Miles Wood had less hits than even Rielly last season.


Wow, good catch. Would have for sure expected more hits from him.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 7:18 p.m.
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Wow, good catch. Would have for sure expected more hits from him.


Ya, its pretty interesting. Michael Bunting plays the same style, scored at a more prolific rate, had more hits/game and has the same term of team control over his contract as Wood. He wasn't even qualified by the Coyotes and signed for close to league minimum in Toronto ... but yet for some reason people want to believe Wood is this asset with massive value.
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Sep. 10, 2021 at 7:23 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Devils aren't giving away Wood.
Would have to tee up more than that.


After some more thought, I don't actually see why the Devils move him to begin with as he's young enough to be part of the rebuild. Barring an over the top offer I see you guys keeping him.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 9:42 p.m.
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After some more thought, I don't actually see why the Devils move him to begin with as he's young enough to be part of the rebuild. Barring an over the top offer I see you guys keeping him.


Agree. Only reason we would move him is that he is the most obvious candidate for an overpay
 
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