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Next year trades to clear cap

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Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 4, 2021
Published: Oct. 4, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$850,000
8$8,000,000
4$4,000,000
2$750,000
2$2,500,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
Trades
MTL
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (NJD)
  2. 2023 7th round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. Lehkonen, Artturi
Additional Details:
Jake would be a good backup for Blackwood and lehkonen will bring really good depth and experience
Buyouts
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$73,877,083$1,132,500$1,352,500$7,622,917
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 8
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 3
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$880,833$880,833
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
RFA - 3
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$2,343,750$2,343,750
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$859,167$859,167 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW, C
UFA

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Oct. 4, 2021 at 6:03 p.m.
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Devils have Bernier for multiple years don't they?
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Oct. 4, 2021 at 6:11 p.m.
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Bernier for next two years...Schmid or Daws after that.
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Oct. 4, 2021 at 6:17 p.m.
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Montembeault had a sub-.900 save percentage in the AHL last year.
Oct. 4, 2021 at 6:29 p.m.
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Devils don't need Allen or Lekhonen
Oct. 4, 2021 at 6:37 p.m.
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Just can’t imagine the devils ever considering that
Oct. 5, 2021 at 9:04 a.m.
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Just can’t imagine the devils ever considering that


neither side considers that because its make zero sense.
Oct. 5, 2021 at 9:29 a.m.
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neither side considers that because its make zero sense.


It makes sense for montreal if they’re trying to free up cap.
Oct. 5, 2021 at 9:53 a.m.
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It makes sense for montreal if they’re trying to free up cap.


other ways to free up cup without handicapping our goalie situation. Price already starting the year off injured, gonna want to keep his total start somewhere in the 45-55 range, Montembeault is completely unproven and coming off a so so year in the AHL he isnt stepping in for 25-35 starts, where as thats exactly why we went out at got allen for. So not only does it leave the habs worse off but they get shafted in the deal, wouldnt trade either player for a 3rd straight up let alone both of them. I would rather give up multiple picks to get someone to take byron or something if cap space is needed, certainly better alternatives to this.
Oct. 5, 2021 at 10:00 a.m.
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other ways to free up cup without handicapping our goalie situation. Price already starting the year off injured, gonna want to keep his total start somewhere in the 45-55 range, Montembeault is completely unproven and coming off a so so year in the AHL he isnt stepping in for 25-35 starts, where as thats exactly why we went out at got allen for. So not only does it leave the habs worse off but they get shafted in the deal, wouldnt trade either player for a 3rd straight up let alone both of them. I would rather give up multiple picks to get someone to take byron or something if cap space is needed, certainly better alternatives to this.


Well those players don’t exactly have a ton of value league wide. What are these other easier ways to free up cap space?
Oct. 5, 2021 at 10:07 a.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Well those players don’t exactly have a ton of value league wide. What are these other easier ways to free up cap space?


well for one buying out Byron makes very little sense, fully aware that everyone on here apparently thinks hes not worth anything which is fine i would pay multiple mid round picks to move him instead of dumping allen. I highly doubt the plan was to keep him at the expansion draft while exposing price just to turn around and dump him somewhere for no return.

Theres no case at all to be made for dumping allen for nothing hes a great back up and if we need to ride price for 65 + starts we are just adding more risk of injury for him

Lecky could also be moved if needed, hes on a one year deal with a reasonable cap hit, and can play in many situation and is a great penalty killer, theres plenty of contenders that would want to add that type of a player and depending when it was made would bring that 3rd back at the very least.
Oct. 5, 2021 at 10:10 a.m.
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well for one buying out Byron makes very little sense, fully aware that everyone on here apparently thinks hes not worth anything which is fine i would pay multiple mid round picks to move him instead of dumping allen.

Theres no case at all to be made for dumping allen for nothing hes a great back up and if we need to ride price for 65 + starts we are just adding more risk of injury for him

Lecky could also be moved if needed, hes on a one year deal with a reasonable cap hit, and can play in many situation and is a great penalty killer, theres plenty of contenders that would want to add that type of a player and depending when it was made would bring that 3rd back at the very least.


Lecky? Puke. I assume you mean lehkonen. He’s overpaid. I don’t think anyone would want him in a flat cap world.

Here’s the thing about paying multiple mid round picks….that’s rarely a thing. If its multiple mid round picks, its a higher pick 9 times out of 10.

Sooooo where are these easy ways to dump cap?
Oct. 5, 2021 at 10:18 a.m.
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Lecky? Puke. I assume you mean lehkonen. He’s overpaid. I don’t think anyone would want him in a flat cap world.

Here’s the thing about paying multiple mid round picks….that’s rarely a thing. If its multiple mid round picks, its a higher pick 9 times out of 10.

Sooooo where are these easy ways to dump cap?


well agree to disagree on LECKY then again its a one year contract ya flat cap litterally irrelevant since the cap doesnt go up in the middle of the season regardless.
And it can be a higher pick i would rather give up a 2nd and 3rd to get rid of Byron. Again makes no sense and there's literally 0 chance the habs are moving allen to solve the cap problem (if there is one). isn't like hes carrying a huge cap hit to start with and why would instantly create another problem when you have winger depth that would be the obvious choice to move out if neeeded?
Oct. 5, 2021 at 10:21 a.m.
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well agree to disagree on LECKY then again its a one year contract ya flat cap litterally irrelevant since the cap doesnt go up in the middle of the season regardless.
And it can be a higher pick i would rather give up a 2nd and 3rd to get rid of Byron. Again makes no sense and there's literally 0 chance the habs are moving allen to solve the cap problem (if there is one). isn't like hes carrying a huge cap hit to start with and why would instantly create another problem when you have winger depth that would be the obvious choice to move out if neeeded?


The flat cap is not literally irrelevant….guess why! Everyone has less cap space because the dang cap didn’t go up. It’s so ridiculously relevant.

So once again, what’s this easy way to clear cap? You should be able to tell me if it’s so easy, right?
Oct. 5, 2021 at 10:23 a.m.
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The flat cap is not literally irrelevant….guess why! Everyone has less cap space because the dang cap didn’t go up. It’s so ridiculously relevant.

So once again, what’s this easy way to clear cap? You should be able to tell me if it’s so easy, right?


i've told you three things you clearly just want an argument so enjoy your day.
Oct. 5, 2021 at 10:26 a.m.
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i've told you three things you clearly just want an argument so enjoy your day.


You’ve told me
1. Buy out Byron, which was already done in this ACGM, so that’s not one.
2. You’ve said lehkonen can be moved in a nauseating way, but he’s also moved in this ACGM.

That’s it. So I’m not sure where you got three. You’re at zero.
Oct. 5, 2021 at 10:40 a.m.
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You’ve told me
1. Buy out Byron, which was already done in this ACGM, so that’s not one.
2. You’ve said lehkonen can be moved in a nauseating way, but he’s also moved in this ACGM.

That’s it. So I’m not sure where you got three. You’re at zero.


1) i said dont buy out byron instead trade him and include picks to sweaten the deal.
2) move lehkonen in a deal on his own (not what is done above)
3) and thirdly part with some of the depth that we have on the wings to save cap space

Good try though.

If you think theres the slightest chance MTL is going to move allen then theres no point in continuing this, theres no justification for it habs end up much worse off.
Oct. 5, 2021 at 10:43 a.m.
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1) i said dont buy out byron instead trade him and include picks to sweaten the deal.
2) move lehkonen in a deal on his own (not what is done above)
3) and thirdly part with some of the depth that we have on the wings to save cap space

Good try though.

If you think theres the slightest chance MTL is going to move allen then theres no point in continuing this, theres no justification for it habs end up much worse off.


If they need cap to sign suzuki or caufield, i think it might make sense to move a backup goalie.

As for number three, i was asking for something specific, not vague concepts.
Oct. 5, 2021 at 10:54 a.m.
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If they need cap to sign suzuki or caufield, i think it might make sense to move a backup goalie.

As for number three, i was asking for something specific, not vague concepts.


so you move allen to free up cap space to sign caufield even though caufield next contract kicks in after Allen's deal is up? Makes sense.

With weber's future still completely uncertain that entire problem may be solved without needing to move anyone at all and if this move was needed to sign suzuki (again leckonen's contract would be irrelevant since its only this year) of course would move allen if that was the only option.

and what would you prefer signed trade contracts? or was move byron for multiple picks to abstract to wrap your head around? a 2nd and 3rd should be enough to get a bottom team to eat that contract. Lechnon trading for a pick is pretty straight forward as well.
Oct. 5, 2021 at 12:28 p.m.
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so you move allen to free up cap space to sign caufield even though caufield next contract kicks in after Allen's deal is up? Makes sense.

With weber's future still completely uncertain that entire problem may be solved without needing to move anyone at all and if this move was needed to sign suzuki (again leckonen's contract would be irrelevant since its only this year) of course would move allen if that was the only option.

and what would you prefer signed trade contracts? or was move byron for multiple picks to abstract to wrap your head around? a 2nd and 3rd should be enough to get a bottom team to eat that contract. Lechnon trading for a pick is pretty straight forward as well.


I’m not necessarily advocating for trading Allen. However it is very very clear that the habs are going to be in a very tough cap situation next season, and they’re going to have to move some players.
 
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