I think that’s a very fair offer. The one thing I would say is that if Edmonton is paying that much, they should be able to ditch a contract on Arizona, like Kassian or Barrie.

Financially strapped AZ isn't taking cap dumps back

Everything in regard to taking cap dumps is a function of the value you’re getting in return. If no one else is offering close to this, they want to move the player, and have to take kassian, that’s a no brainer. There is a cap floor after all, and Arizona doesn’t even have $30M on the books for next year. They’re definitely up for taking cap dumps. They’re probably the number one cap dump team in the league.

They'll find cap dumps like Datsyuk which count towards the floor yet don't cost real dollars

And they’ll get a 7th rounder. Or, they can get real value for a guy they can put on the ice. They wouldn’t bat an eye at kassian.

And they’ll get a 7th rounder. Or, they can get real value for a guy they can put on the ice. They wouldn’t bat an eye at kassian.

If Kassian is "real value " why would Edmonton be eager to put him in ? Answer he isn't.

You're correct about them not batting an eye at him they don't even look in his direction.
Are you forgetting who they wound up getting for taking Datsyuk from Detroit........Chychrun

It’s not like it was datsyuk for 16. They moved up four spots to take datsyuk. This trade, in case you didn’t notice, was multiple firsts, and high level prospects.

The point, which somehow seems to still be unclear, was that if this is the best offer they got, which i think it might be, taking on a contract when they’ll have to work to get to the cap floor anyway is a no brainer.

When did i say kassian was real value? I actively said he was a cap dump.

And they’ll get a 7th rounder. Or, they can get real value for a guy they can put on the ice. They wouldn’t bat an eye at kassian. Right there is when you said kassian was real value

Noooo you’re not getting this.
Option one. Get nothing for a guy that’s on LTIR to get to the cap floor.
Option two. Get real value for taking a guy that is on a bad contract that’s actually going to need to play.

See the difference? Finally see what I’m saying now? If they can get more real value (look back over this thread, I swear it will make sense) in terms of futures by agreeing to take a couple years of Zach kassian, it’s the obvious choice.[/quote
The point you're missing is they want to keep costs as minimal as possible while building they're going to loose for 2 years take the above deal W/out Kassian or get a very similar deal somewhere else without that excessive salary for a player they really don't need save every penny (they were late paying bonuses) they were deliquent paying rent on the building so badly they were threatened to be locked out of their building including offices they owe back taxes to the city and state. If Edmonton wants Chychrun it's the above deal or they go to plan B,C,D, etcetera. Someone will give them this type deal if not keep the really young guy on one of the best contracts in the league

Noooo you’re not getting this.
Option one. Get nothing for a guy that’s on LTIR to get to the cap floor.
Option two. Get real value for taking a guy that is on a bad contract that’s actually going to need to play.

See the difference? Finally see what I’m saying now? If they can get more real value (look back over this thread, I swear it will make sense) in terms of futures by agreeing to take a couple years of Zach kassian, it’s the obvious choice.

You seem and correct me if I'm wrong to be looking at it like they have to trade Chychrun ,I on the other hand am looking at it if from an AZ POV we can get a king's ransom do it otherwise we have the perfect guy to build the future around

I’m really not.

It’s the concept of weaponizing cap space.

Let’s see if we can get this through if we remove names from it. Let’s just place a number value on things. And of course, this is all operating under the hypothetical that the coyotes are willing to move chychrun.

The league submits their offers. The coyotes get 10 offers, and the top nine are all topping out at a grade of 75/100. Then come the oilers. The coyotes view their offer as a 90/100, but edmonton is asking them to take back a contract that is a -10, bringing the overall value of the edmonton package to an 80. Still a win right there! The good news is, the coyotes have to add 30+ million to reach the cap floor, so that -10 value asset isn’t that big of a deal. The overall package is the best out there, and the ask in return is less damaging to them than any other team in the league.

To put it even more simply, if someone walked up to you and said, “i can either give you $10 for you to keep, or I can give you $20, but you have to give me $5 back,” which offer are you taking?

It’s a no brainer slam dunk.

I've understood your concept however I feel there will be more than 1 90 offer available
And if the offers don't come to a 90 say thank bit we'll keep him

Everything you’ve said has indicated that you have entirely missed the point

You're making it like this would be substantially the best offer I doubt it . You also by your words seem to think they have to trade him I DON'T nor do I think they should. So unless it is simply the best offer in the world they should walk away I understand you don't realize how financially strapped AZ is but keep telling yourself you're Mister I know everything have a merry Christmas

My words haven’t indicated that the coyotes need to trade him. You made that up.