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Three-pronged trade

Created by: Knuckl3s
Published: Jan. 7 at 5:59 p.m.
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Season Days: 112/200 (56%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Florida PanthersFlorida Panthers

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $4,366,667
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: $643,319
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Montour, BrandonFlorida PanthersNHL-$3,500,000111---0000--
2022 3rd round pick (Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA)---010------
2023 4th round pick (Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Chiarot, BenMontreal CanadiensNHL Non-Roster-$3,500,000011---0000--
2023 3rd round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$3,723,3482339603414
Change$0-10000-1
Final$3,723,34822 (↓)39603413 (↓)000

Logo of the Montreal CanadiensMontreal Canadiens

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $21,757,143
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: $14,480,833
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Chiarot, BenMontreal CanadiensNHL Non-Roster-$3,500,000011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Holl, JustinToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$2,000,000111---0000--
Dermott, TravisToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$1,500,000111---0000--
2022 3rd round pick (Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA)---010------
2023 4th round pick (Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$7,276,3102147714714
Change$0211011
Final$7,276,31023 (↑)48 (↑)72 (↑)48 (↑)15 (↑)000

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Holl, JustinToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$1,120,000111---0000--
Dermott, TravisToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$840,000111---0000--
2023 3rd round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Montour, BrandonFlorida PanthersNHL-$1,960,000111---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$62,160214669358
Change$0-1-1-10-10
Final$62,16020 (↓)45 (↓)68 (↓)34 (↓)8000
Jan. 7 at 6:08 p.m.
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Dude, no with these proposals ! Toronto would never ever do this,stop!

Oh wait a minute...........yes they would.............
Jan. 7 at 6:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Dutchies
Dude, no with these proposals ! Toronto would never ever do this,stop!

Oh wait a minute...........yes they would.............


The would go through with this proposal no matter the reality tears of joy
Jan. 8 at 10:58 a.m.
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Why would Florida do this. They don’t need to swap D, they need to add depth at D. And they give up 2 picks and get back an older player that is not having as good a year as the player they give up. No!
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Jan. 8 at 12:56 p.m.
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Why would the contending Panthers want to downgrade their defense? Why don't you just take the Panthers out of this and try to work this between just the Habs and the Leafs?
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Jan. 8 at 3:56 p.m.
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Why would Florida do this. They don’t need to swap D, they need to add depth at D. And they give up 2 picks and get back an older player that is not having as good a year as the player they give up. No!


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Why would the contending Panthers want to downgrade their defense? Why don't you just take the Panthers out of this and try to work this between just the Habs and the Leafs?


But they aren't downgrading their defense here
Jan. 8 at 4:18 p.m.
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But they aren't downgrading their defense here


Montour is miles ahead of Chiarot, lol grin

Ever since he left the disaster we call Buffalo, he's been a legit top4 dman
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Jan. 8 at 4:22 p.m.
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Montour is miles ahead of Chiarot, lol grin

Ever since he left the disaster we call Buffalo, he's been a legit top4 dman


Then why am I always seeing Montour on the 3rd pair on the Panthers depth chart behind Gudas who is on the 2nd pair. Cause Gudas is a 3rd pair guy, not a top 4 D-man
Jan. 8 at 4:29 p.m.
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Then why am I always seeing Montour on the 3rd pair on the Panthers depth chart behind Gudas who is on the 2nd pair. Cause Gudas is a 3rd pair guy, not a top 4 D-man


Because Gudas plays well with Forsling, who has quite a small frame. They have chemistry

Heiskanen plays on the Stars's second pair behind Klingberg, but that doesn't mean he isn't a 1st pair defenseman
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Jan. 8 at 4:31 p.m.
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Because Gudas plays well with Forsling, who has quite a small frame. They have chemistry

Heiskanen plays on the Stars's second pair behind Klingberg, but that doesn't mean he isn't a 1st pair defenseman


Just because two D-men have good Chemistry doesn't necessarily make them an ideal 2nd defensive pair
Jan. 8 at 4:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Just because two D-men have good Chemistry doesn't necessarily make them an ideal 2nd defensive pair


In this case, it does...

Just because Montour is better than Gudas doesn't mean he should play on the 2nd pair
Jan. 8 at 4:38 p.m.
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In this case, it does...

Just because Montour is better than Gudas doesn't mean he should play on the 2nd pair


In what way does that work?
Jan. 8 at 5:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
In what way does that work?


What are you on? Gudas plays better with Forsling, that's why he's above Montour.

Are you really trying to argue that Chiarot>Montour??
Jan. 8 at 5:19 p.m.
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What are you on? Gudas plays better with Forsling, that's why he's above Montour.

Are you really trying to argue that Chiarot>Montour??


You're damn right I am. I haven't heard any non-Panthers fan say that Montour is better than Chiarot, and Chiarot wouldn't be in trade rumours involving Florida if he wasn't better than a guy like Montour
Jan. 8 at 5:48 p.m.
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You're damn right I am. I haven't heard any non-Panthers fan say that Montour is better than Chiarot, and Chiarot wouldn't be in trade rumours involving Florida if he wasn't better than a guy like Montour


Okay, I won't even have to talk to you anymore. You are delusional grin
Jan. 8 at 5:55 p.m.
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Okay, I won't even have to talk to you anymore. You are delusional grin


Hey, until I hear someone else agree with you. I haven't heard any non-Panthers fans being all that high on Montour, I believe that Montour is doing better in Florida than he was in Buffalo, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's top 4 caliber
Jan. 9 at 11:32 a.m.
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You never understood my original point. The Panthers are looking to upgrade their D. It is the number 6 D, and depth that will hurt them in the playoffs. Rank them where you want, but Gudas and Montour are currently our 4&5D. We wouldn’t want to give up either of them for D help. So this trade doesn’t work for the Panthers.
Jan. 9 at 2:29 p.m.
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Hey, until I hear someone else agree with you. I haven't heard any non-Panthers fans being all that high on Montour, I believe that Montour is doing better in Florida than he was in Buffalo, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's top 4 caliber


You don't watch the panthers. Just admit it. You don't know anything about Montour or how he's played, other than from stat watching. He is a clear top 4 defenseman and better than Chiarot.
Jan. 9 at 4:28 p.m.
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Quoting: VijayPatel11
You don't watch the panthers. Just admit it. You don't know anything about Montour or how he's played, other than from stat watching. He is a clear top 4 defenseman and better than Chiarot.


Okay man, you've made your point. It's just a lot of people weren't fans of the extension Zito gave him in the off-season, but clearly it still worked out
Jan. 9 at 4:51 p.m.
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You never understood my original point. The Panthers are looking to upgrade their D. It is the number 6 D, and depth that will hurt them in the playoffs. Rank them where you want, but Gudas and Montour are currently our 4&5D. We wouldn’t want to give up either of them for D help. So this trade doesn’t work for the Panthers.


Considering their cap situation, if the Panthers don't move out one of their own D-men, they have to look at moving out cap on the forward depth chart like Hornqvist or Vatrano. Truth is, the Cats don't have much cap flexibility, they have to move some good cap out to make room for Chiarot even with salary retained by the Habs
 
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