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Out of Left Field Trade

Created by: TJTwolf
Team: 2021-22 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 21, 2022
Published: Jan. 21, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
A way outside the box idea but more just for fun. I've broken the LA trade into two parts although it could easily (and more likely would) be one trade were it happen (in the alternate cap friendly universe). As one trade it balances better with a bit of give and take in the player values. Highly unlikely to happen but there is 'some logic' to it. Cap being over slightly isn't an issue as the trades would likely be late/TDL to make it work, and assumes a certain amount has been accrued. There are a LOT of assumptions made!!! I'm ready for the burn. LOL!
Trades
1.
COL
  1. Danault, Phillip
Additional Details:
If the Avs are looking to go deep then serious depth at centre can't hurt. Danault's strengths defensively and in the face off circle answer a couple of areas of need for the Avs. Danault also answers a problem for next year. Locked up long term he can fill a void left by Kadri, and work in tandem with Newhook as 2C while Newhook develops. Just as with LA though it potentially leaves a hole, this time on D, and would really have to assume Byram is back and fully fit to work.
LAK
  1. Girard, Samuel
Additional Details:
LA have been consistently linked with a search for a 'dynamic LHD' since last year. Sammy G definitely fits that description, and there's no question the Kings would be in on him if the price was right, but giving up Danault after just signing him is unlikely. However, if the Kings drop out of the running this year would they potentially go with the veteran Kopitar as 2C and give Byfield a shot at taking the role he's heading for anyway, and look to Vilardi to eventually develop into the 2C?
2.
COL
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas
Additional Details:
The Avs make a cap saving in the cheaper Athanasiou. He fits the Avlanche speedster style, and I'm surprised they haven't taken a look at him in the past, as reclamation projects have been popular in Colorado. Obviously dependent on his returning from injury.
LAK
  1. Compher, J.T.
Additional Details:
Compher seems to be regarded by many as a cap dump after a poor season last year. Whilst the Avs make some cap room in this trade, JTC is a useful guy, though more a jack of all trades type player. His cap hit only looks as bad as it does due to the covid cap era.
3.
COL
  1. Gudbranson, Erik
Additional Details:
I like the idea of adding Gudbranson for physicality in the play offs. The Avs could go with playing Jack Johnson on the right as a RHD but he usually plays LD, so I decided to look at picking up a decent option to fill the right side role as JJ is better suited to the 7th D role at this point.
CGY
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
This assumes that Calgary is out of the race and you can really insert your choice of right sided third pairing D in here. Calgary get a decent pick for an expiring contract if they're out of the race.
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,893,963$1,741,463$3,350,000-$393,963
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
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$2,700,000$2,700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$1,075,000$1,075,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 2
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$908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1

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Jan. 21, 2022 at 10:11 p.m.
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Can we all please stop trading Girard for older players? Like, everyone on this site please sign an agreement? Because it really makes zero sense for COL to move Girard. Danault just signed an extension with LAK, I can't see him wanting to move so quickly, even if it is Colorado. He also doesn't want to be a 3C, that was his big issue in MTL. Byram has concussion symptoms and nobody knows when he'll be back to 100%, they really can't afford to move anyone on the back end. If anything, I think they may look into adding defensemen at the deadline.
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Jan. 21, 2022 at 10:32 p.m.
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Calgary will be keeping Gudbranson for their own cup run. Assuming they fall ot is quite a stretch when they have 6-7 games in hand on the 4 teams in front of them and 3 of them are within 3 points
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Jan. 22, 2022 at 12:25 a.m.
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If someone is willing to give up a 3rd for gudbranson the flames would take it and run
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Jan. 22, 2022 at 5:51 a.m.
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I wanted Danault in the off-season but it would be stupid to trade for him at this price when we could have had him in UFA. Bad look for LA to trade a player who just committed to them as a free agent.
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Jan. 22, 2022 at 5:54 a.m.
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Quoting: NickC1988
Can we all please stop trading Girard for older players? Like, everyone on this site please sign an agreement? Because it really makes zero sense for COL to move Girard. Danault just signed an extension with LAK, I can't see him wanting to move so quickly, even if it is Colorado. He also doesn't want to be a 3C, that was his big issue in MTL. Byram has concussion symptoms and nobody knows when he'll be back to 100%, they really can't afford to move anyone on the back end. If anything, I think they may look into adding defensemen at the deadline.


Firstly, no, I don't think anyone should stop. It's perfectly feasible to trade an older player for a younger one y'know? Not outside the bounds of reality. It does happen. The question is whether it's a relatively reasonable idea (i.e. not one for one for Carey Price). If you'd read any of the actual trade idea you would know it relied on certain assumptions and your points were already addressed, bar the falacious 3C argument. Danault himself never mentioned the 3C role directly as far as I can remember, but rather how he was utilised, and in Colorado it would be similar to how LA looks to use him. To shelter Newhook in a similar fashion to Byfield. By the time he reaches the end of his current contract there is no way he will still be a 2C if he's in LA and Byfield and Vilardi have developed correctly. The rest I won't bother re-writing here.
Jan. 22, 2022 at 5:56 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Calgary will be keeping Gudbranson for their own cup run. Assuming they fall ot is quite a stretch when they have 6-7 games in hand on the 4 teams in front of them and 3 of them are within 3 points


Still early days my friend, but yes as the description says it relies on that assumption. It also does say insert your own choice of RD that fits.
Jan. 22, 2022 at 5:56 a.m.
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If someone is willing to give up a 3rd for gudbranson the flames would take it and run


You consider him to be that bad?
Jan. 22, 2022 at 6:04 a.m.
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I wanted Danault in the off-season but it would be stupid to trade for him at this price when we could have had him in UFA. Bad look for LA to trade a player who just committed to them as a free agent.


Certainly it would be a surprise and like you I'd have been happy if they'd signed him in the off season. I agree it would certainly be unusual for a team to move a guy that soon but I'm sure it has happened before. Also Danault would have a pretty fair shout in the destination with the NMC. I agree that Sammy is a lot to give up but then there are other elements that can always be added and sometimes a team will move a guy even though the trade appears unbalanced player for player and still win from it. However, as it says, the idea is certainly a pretty left field idea.
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Jan. 22, 2022 at 6:58 a.m.
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He had a really good start to the year but hasn’t been very good lately. A 3rd round pick for a 3rd pairing defencmen seems like a good deal
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You consider him to be that bad?
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Jan. 22, 2022 at 7:33 a.m.
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You consider him to be that bad?


Hes been a solid depth guy overall. I dont think its a value issue I just dont see Calgary ever falling out of the race until the last couple weeks if at all
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Jan. 22, 2022 at 1:03 p.m.
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Certainly it would be a surprise and like you I'd have been happy if they'd signed him in the off season. I agree it would certainly be unusual for a team to move a guy that soon but I'm sure it has happened before. Also Danault would have a pretty fair shout in the destination with the NMC. I agree that Sammy is a lot to give up but then there are other elements that can always be added and sometimes a team will move a guy even though the trade appears unbalanced player for player and still win from it. However, as it says, the idea is certainly a pretty left field idea.


A trade with LA that could work better could be Girard for Roy + Vilardi/Turcotte. Avs get a big PKing RHD and young middle 6 C, whereas LA trade from a position of surplus (they have MANY RHD's and young C's) to fill that puckmoving LHD spot in their top 4.
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