You’re gonna have to do a lot better than that for Giroux

I get that Giroux has full say on where he wants to go. But you could put a little effort into proper value.

The Devil's Taylor Hall rental got more than twice that return.

I get that the return for Giroux is low, but I think when the time comes it'll be something like this. I'll add Kaut to make it a bit better. But he gets final say on where he goes and there's a shortage of strong contenders that aren't old hated competitors or can afford something big. Plus, everyone knows he's signing back in Philly in UFA so it doesn't pay to give everything away for 3 months of him, no matter how awesome he is.

No need to revisit Donskoi.

Giroux trade is week massive week

None of us know on guys that have full trade protection. Look at the other Hall trade. A 2nd and a bottom six winger. And he even re-signed with Boston.

My guess for Giroux is a first and decent prospect/roster player, but I sure wouldn't bet on that being accurate. Could be more, could be less, idk.

Few things. I don't know that he is signing back in Philly if he is traded. How often does that ever happen. Its always brought up, but rarely happens. Honestly Ottawa's roster has more potential than the Flyers anyway.

As for the other Hall trade. A lot of stuff was going on with that Hall trade.

Sabres were in a real bad way as an organization and Hall had demanded to be traded. He also wasn't really playing that well. Giroux is maybe the only flyer playing well. Plus he is a captain and face of the franchise. Hall was not that for Buffalo. Trading Giroux is a big blow to fans (even if they sound ready to trade him), its a strong message to the locker room as well. To make it worth the Flyers while, they'll have to be overwhelmed with an offer to trade Giroux.

I personally think Donskoi is having a career bad year and being misused. I think both the team and the player would be willing to try again, and especially if he's half-price. He's a big time playoffs producer and isn't easy to push off the puck. I bet Seattle is willing to get a player like JTC that can play Center and needs a bit of a change of scenery. He's young enough to stick around during the build but could be flipped for half-price to a contender if they wanted later.



Well, let's not pretend Philly isn't in a bad way as an organization right now either. Their biggest possible trade piece has all the cards, has the right to feel like his career has been wasted, and the team won't be ready for a real run before he has to retire. The more you pump him up, the more he has the right to be offended at the team.

From everything we know, he's really attached to the club and the fans, if he may be soured on the front office. So to me, there are two options. He would either want to go the Ray Bourque route to chase a Cup with a serious contender for a short term, either one or two years. To me, the best chance of that, besides somewhere like Pittsburgh or Washington that he fought against his whole career, would be Colorado. It gets some pieces back without either hurting his chance at a Cup or hurting Philly. Or he feels extremely angry at the Philly front office and wants free. In that case, he isn't likely to give them a gift of a bunch of trade pieces just to again hurt wherever he's going. The most likely option is to ride out until UFA and go where he most wants for next year, free and clear.

@caldermakar Donskoi is having a bad year goal scoring wise because that’s who he is a streaky player. When he is hot he is hot when he isn’t he is ice cold. Big time playoff producer? 11 pts in 19 playoff games w/COL. Compher has 9 in the same stretch and can play center.

lmao you just said he's probably going back to philly then say he's got beef with the front office and will leave this offseason. Make up your mind. You are contradicting yourself all over the place. I don't think he has any ill will to the front office. They made an effort to make the team better, but it didn't work. He would most definitely want to chase a cup this year thats why he wouldn't wait for free agency. A player Giroux's age is not worried about costing a team a 1st round pick and prospect that are years away from contributing. Players aren't that sinister, they aren't gonna put their life on pause just so a team doesn't get trade value, because some reason you concocted.

There isn't that much drama going on. Its literally the flyers are losing and G deserves a chance at a cup. Just depends whether he wants to given that his family lives in Ottawa/Philly and he spent his whole career trying to build a legacy and be the face of the franchise.

And I 100% agree that Colorado is probably his best chance, but they aren't gonna just give him up to give him up. They'd rather let him walk then give up him up for pennies.