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Start Of A New Era

Created by: Mediumyeet
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 27, 2022
Published: Jan. 27, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Team Explanation
MOTTE IS OBVIOUSLY ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE TRADE

Canucks clear a lot of cap space here, reshape their defense, and get a lot faster. They can now operate without Ferland on LTIR so that they can accrue capspace and hopefully take advantage of an opportunity presented by a cap strapped team.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Formenton, Alex4$3,200,000
Highmore, Matthew3$1,125,000
Lockwood, William2$800,000
Lammikko, Juho1$850,000
Kapanen, Kasperi4$3,800,000
Joseph, Mathieu2$1,250,000
Rathbone, Jack2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Martin, Spencer1$800,000
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (FLA)
Motte, Tyler

*DEADLINE*
(doesn't have to be Florida but I expect Motte to being back a pick 2/3rd round pick from someone)
FLA
    2.
    VAN
    1. Schneider, Braden
    2. Chytil, Filip
    3. 2022 1st round pick (NYR)
    NYR
    1. Miller, J.T. ($1,250,000 retained)
    Additional Details:
    *DEADLINE*
    3.
    VAN
    1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob
    2. Formenton, Alex [RFA Rights]
    OTT
    1. Boeser, Brock [RFA Rights]
    Additional Details:
    *OFFSEASON*
    4.
    VAN
    1. Kapanen, Kasperi [RFA Rights]
    PIT
    1. Garland, Conor
    Additional Details:
    *OFFSEASON*

    (Not sure if anything needs to be added from either side. Could see garland doing really well in Pittsburgh. I think Allvin and Rutherford would like to bring in guys with speed like Kapanen. Garland is super shifty but I wouldn't call him fast)
    5.
    VAN
    1. Joseph, Mathieu [RFA Rights]
    TBL
    1. 2023 4th round pick (VAN)
    *OFFSEASON*

    (Not sure what the value is here but I think Joseph is a good target for the nucks. He's one of Castonguay's former clients. He will be an RFA that could not only be looking for a bit of a raise but some more opportunity to play.)
    6.
    VAN
    1. Petry, Jeff
    MTL
    1. Myers, Tyler
    Additional Details:
    *OFFSEASON*

    (This one is a bit more outside the box and a long shot. Canucks bank on Petry having a bounce back and just being a better fit with OEL or Hughes than Myers is. Habs get a serviceable dman back but the main win for them is they get out of the contract a year earlier than Petry's)
    Buyouts
    • Braden Holtby: $1,900,000
    • Jake Virtanen: $500,000
    • Travis Hamonic: $1,666,667
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • J.T. Miller: $1,250,000 (23.81%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2022
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    2023
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$77,218,334$1,250,000$1,975,000$4,281,666
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
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    Höglander, Nils
    $891,667
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
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    Pettersson, Elias
    $7,350,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
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    Podkolzin, Vasily
    $925,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
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    Pearson, Tanner
    $3,250,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Horvat, Bo
    $5,500,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Kapanen, Kasperi
    $3,800,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Formenton, Alex
    $3,200,000
    LW
    RFA
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    Chytil, Filip
    $2,300,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    Joseph, Mathieu
    $1,250,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 4
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    Highmore, Matthew
    $1,125,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    Lammikko, Juho
    $850,000
    C, LW
    UFA
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    Lockwood, William
    $800,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
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    Dickinson, Jason
    $2,650,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    Hughes, Quinn
    $7,850,000
    LD
    UFA - 5
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    Petry, Jeff
    $6,250,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 3
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    Demko, Thatcher
    $5,000,000
    G
    UFA - 4
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    Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
    $7,260,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    Schneider, Braden
    $925,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
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    Martin, Spencer
    $800,000
    G
    UFA - 2
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    Poolman, Tucker
    $2,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
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    Bernard-Docker, Jacob
    $925,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
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    Rathbone, Jack
    $900,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
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    Schenn, Luke
    $850,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    Ferland, Micheal
    $3,500,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 1

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    Jan. 27 at 4:09 a.m.
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    Garland is untouchable for Vancouver, don't even think about moving him, and he is way more valuable than Kapanen

    Myers is more valuable than Petry, that trade isn't happening

    I don't think Formenton is valuable enough of a prospect to make the Sens deal work

    I think Joseph is worth closer to a 2nd/3rd to Tampa
    Jan. 27 at 5:04 a.m.
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    A 4 definitely doesn't get you Joseph
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    Jan. 27 at 6:36 a.m.
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    If Vancouver is retaining salary on the Miller deal, the ask will be more
    Jan. 27 at 8:13 a.m.
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    Quoting: yztnuK
    If Vancouver is retaining salary on the Miller deal, the ask will be more


    That value is actually pretty spot on for that amount of salary retained, but it won't be Schnieder. It would be Lundkvist.
    Jan. 27 at 8:23 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bbousa
    That value is actually pretty spot on for that amount of salary retained, but it won't be Schnieder. It would be Lundkvist.


    perhaps, with zero salary retention
    Jan. 27 at 11:08 a.m.
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    Quoting: Knuckl3s
    Garland is untouchable for Vancouver, don't even think about moving him, and he is way more valuable than Kapanen

    Myers is more valuable than Petry, that trade isn't happening

    I don't think Formenton is valuable enough of a prospect to make the Sens deal work

    I think Joseph is worth closer to a 2nd/3rd to Tampa


    Garland is definitely not even close to being untouchable.

    Neither Myers or Petry are valuable given their contracts. Petry would be a better fit on the Canucks Blueline.

    Formenton is a roster player not a prospect and has been breaking out this year and the exact type of player Rutherford and Boudreau like to have.
    Jan. 27 at 11:36 a.m.
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    Quoting: Knuckl3s
    I don't think Formenton is valuable enough of a prospect to make the Sens deal work


    12 point in his last 12 games. Coming into his own in his first full year in the NHL after putting up almost 30 goals, making the all star game and winning the fastest skater on his first pro season in the AHL. He’s almost at least a guaranteed breakaway per game. Dangerous on the pk and starting to get pp time too.

    Forms is very valuable and I don’t think Ottawa has any intention of moving him.
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    Jan. 27 at 12:03 p.m.
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    Tampa would want a Waiver exempt player or a low 2nd or high 3rd and a AHL filler
    Jan. 27 at 5:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: TheBoyDuddus
    12 point in his last 12 games. Coming into his own in his first full year in the NHL after putting up almost 30 goals, making the all star game and winning the fastest skater on his first pro season in the AHL. He’s almost at least a guaranteed breakaway per game. Dangerous on the pk and starting to get pp time too.

    Forms is very valuable and I don’t think Ottawa has any intention of moving him.


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    Jan. 27 at 5:24 p.m.
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    Quoting: Mediumyeet
    Garland is definitely not even close to being untouchable.

    Neither Myers or Petry are valuable given their contracts. Petry would be a better fit on the Canucks Blueline.

    Formenton is a roster player not a prospect and has been breaking out this year and the exact type of player Rutherford and Boudreau like to have.


    Don't talk like you know everything about the Canucks asset situation, Garland is going nowhere
    Jan. 27 at 6:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: Knuckl3s
    Don't talk like you know everything about the Canucks asset situation, Garland is going nowhere


    Lmao you saying him and Dickinson are untouchable is no different than me saying they are not untouchable. Get of you high horse you clown.
    Jan. 27 at 6:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: Mediumyeet
    Lmao you saying him and Dickinson are untouchable is no different than me saying they are not untouchable. Get of you high horse you clown.


    I never said Dickinson was untouchable, I'm just saying the Canucks aren't going to throw him away for cheap. Everybody makes the Canucks cap situation out to be worse than it really is just because of the Benning stigma
    Jan. 27 at 7:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: Knuckl3s
    I never said Dickinson was untouchable, I'm just saying the Canucks aren't going to throw him away for cheap. Everybody makes the Canucks cap situation out to be worse than it really is just because of the Benning stigma


    Don't talk like you know what everybody thinks.
    Jan. 27 at 7:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: Mediumyeet
    Don't talk like you know what everybody thinks.


    I don't, I'm just saying I can't stand all the needless whining about the Canucks like things are never going to improve, it's not the type of culture that should be getting promoted
    Jan. 27 at 7:06 p.m.
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    I don't, I'm just saying I can't stand all the needless whining about the Canucks like things are never going to improve, it's not the type of culture that should be getting promoted


    From the person who throws a fit when someone suggests trading a middle 6 or bottom 6 player.

    It's not whining it's opinions/suggestions on ways the team can go to improve.
    Jan. 27 at 7:33 p.m.
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    Quoting: Mediumyeet
    From the person who throws a fit when someone suggests trading a middle 6 or bottom 6 player.

    It's not whining it's opinions/suggestions on ways the team can go to improve.


    Nothing wrong with the concept of the move itself, I just don't like the context in which a majority of the scenarios that involve moving these particular assets are suggested
     
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