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trading for Trotz

Created by: michaelost
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 31, 2022
Published: Jan. 31, 2022
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This is just an idea. No idea how the value would work. But EDM needs a coach and a goalie and Islanders need to move on from Trotz
Trades
EDM
  1. Varlamov, Semyon ($1,250,000 retained)
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And Barry Trotz
NYI
  1. Koskinen, Mikko
  2. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
  3. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
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Lane Lambert will be a great Head Coach replacement and islanders dont need Trotz
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$81,500,000$79,905,664$669,339$1,307,500$1,594,336
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,108,696$2,108,696
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LW, C
RFA - 3
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$850,000$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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$834,167$834,167 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
C
RFA - 1
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,600,000$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
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$1,650,000$1,650,000 ($525,000$525K$525,000$525K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$795,000$795,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW, C
UFA - 1

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Jan. 31, 2022 at 11:09 a.m.
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GO FLAMES GO
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You can't trade coaches lol
Jan. 31, 2022 at 11:10 a.m.
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Agreed, Trotz is a terrible coach.
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Jan. 31, 2022 at 11:11 a.m.
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Fire Trotz
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Quoting: Gmonwy
You can't trade coaches lol


i dont think there is a rule. and this is just a crazy idea. no chance it happens but u never know
Jan. 31, 2022 at 1:40 p.m.
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They were a joke before Trotz was there hes the main reason for their sucess the last couple of seasons.
Jan. 31, 2022 at 1:41 p.m.
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i dont think there is a rule. and this is just a crazy idea. no chance it happens but u never know


Didn’t Columbus trade a pick for the rights to sign Tortorella? Toronto payed a 2nd rounder (or 3rd) for Lou too lol…
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Jan. 31, 2022 at 2:11 p.m.
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They were a joke before Trotz was there hes the main reason for their sucess the last couple of seasons.


No he’s not, you clearly don’t follow the isles. Trotz is riding the aging curve of the isles best players
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Jan. 31, 2022 at 2:16 p.m.
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No he’s not, you clearly don’t follow the isles. Trotz is riding the aging curve of the isles best players


No one follows them cuz they are irrelivent.
Jan. 31, 2022 at 2:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan16
No one follows them cuz they are irrelivent.


lol you can’t come back with a logical argument because you have no idea what you’re talking about
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Jan. 31, 2022 at 2:20 p.m.
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lol you can’t come back with a logical argument because you have no idea what you’re talking about


Ok I'll give u a logical argument before Trotz went there they were terrible and since he came in he played his system and they became one of the best defencive teams in the league. Also went to the confrence finals a couple of times.
Jan. 31, 2022 at 2:23 p.m.
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Ok I'll give u a logical argument before Trotz went there they were terrible and since he came in he played his system and they became one of the best defencive teams in the league. Also went to the confrence finals a couple of times.


They became one of the better defensive teams because of Pelech and Pulock, who were just entering their 2nd seasons when Trotz became head coach. They are both elite top 20 defenseman, not because of Trotz.

The isles success is in spite of Trotz, not because of him. Barzal, Pelech, Pulock, and the goaltending has made him look good
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Jan. 31, 2022 at 3:08 p.m.
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Fire Trotz
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They became one of the better defensive teams because of Pelech and Pulock, who were just entering their 2nd seasons when Trotz became head coach. They are both elite top 20 defenseman, not because of Trotz.

The isles success is in spite of Trotz, not because of him. Barzal, Pelech, Pulock, and the goaltending has made him look good


fr. trotz legit benches our best players in favor of 44 year olds and 4th line enforcers. he isnt even letting barzal thrive. barzal’s success is 100% talent. he would perform better if he was given some freedom
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Jan. 31, 2022 at 3:16 p.m.
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fr. trotz legit benches our best players in favor of 44 year olds and 4th line enforcers. he isnt even letting barzal thrive. barzal’s success is 100% talent. he would perform better if he was given some freedom


Yeah it's insane. Trotz is being spiteful and he's wedded to an ideology, not results. He will play his guys at all costs.

It isn't even the system that's holding back Barzal, it's the fact that he has to play with replacement level players (komarov, Bailey etc...) . Lee-Barzal-Eberle was a top 5 line in the league last season. Wahlstrom needs to be given a shot but I have a feeling Trotz won't committ to it because he knows it will work.
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Jan. 31, 2022 at 8:41 p.m.
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You can't trade coaches lol


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I mean, it’s how we got Torts.
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 10:12 a.m.
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Yeah it's insane. Trotz is being spiteful and he's wedded to an ideology, not results. He will play his guys at all costs.

It isn't even the system that's holding back Barzal, it's the fact that he has to play with replacement level players (komarov, Bailey etc...) . Lee-Barzal-Eberle was a top 5 line in the league last season. Wahlstrom needs to be given a shot but I have a feeling Trotz won't committ to it because he knows it will work.


ive been begging for wahly and barzal to play one shift together. he is so stubborn
Feb. 1, 2022 at 10:14 a.m.
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ive been begging for wahly and barzal to play one shift together. he is so stubborn


They have played together for 30 min this season, usually after a PK and they’ve dominated offensively. If you remember , Parise-barzal-Wahlstrom had an insane shift against Vegas a few months ago.
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 10:19 a.m.
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They have played together for 30 min this season, usually after a PK and they’ve dominated offensively. If you remember , Parise-barzal-Wahlstrom had an insane shift against Vegas a few months ago.


Yea I kinda do. But its crazy cuz we can see when Wahly gets good chances he produces and then Barzal creates so many great chances. But I do also remember that at the end of a few blowouts when we were down, Trotz would put them together and it would be 30 seconds of passing in the defensive zone. And when they are together on the PP, they just look like they know wheere the other way is gonna go. Its just crazy
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 10:23 a.m.
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Yea I kinda do. But its crazy cuz we can see when Wahly gets good chances he produces and then Barzal creates so many great chances. But I do also remember that at the end of a few blowouts when we were down, Trotz would put them together and it would be 30 seconds of passing in the defensive zone. And when they are together on the PP, they just look like they know wheere the other way is gonna go. Its just crazy


I really do believe he won’t put them together at even strength because he knows it will work - and that goes against his philosophy as a coach where veterans should always be with young players because they’re “more responsible”
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Feb. 2, 2022 at 12:40 a.m.
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They became one of the better defensive teams because of Pelech and Pulock, who were just entering their 2nd seasons when Trotz became head coach. They are both elite top 20 defenseman, not because of Trotz.

The isles success is in spite of Trotz, not because of him. Barzal, Pelech, Pulock, and the goaltending has made him look good


Those guys were nobodies before Trotz took over they thrived in his defencive system and they became 2 of the NHLs most underrated defensemen. Also lehner became one of the best goalies in the league because of Trotz when he was playing in ottawa and buffalo he was horrendosly bad so there for you guys wouldnt be where you are with out trotz. But ill say Barzal's talent also had something to do with ur sucess.
Feb. 2, 2022 at 12:56 a.m.
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Those guys were nobodies before Trotz took over they thrived in his defencive system and they became 2 of the NHLs most underrated defensemen. Also lehner became one of the best goalies in the league because of Trotz when he was playing in ottawa and buffalo he was horrendosly bad so there for you guys wouldnt be where you are with out trotz. But ill say Barzal's talent also had something to do with ur sucess.


Pulock was one of the best offensive defenseman in the league as a rookie , nobodies 😂
Feb. 2, 2022 at 11:30 a.m.
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Pulock was one of the best offensive defenseman in the league as a rookie , nobodies 😂


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Pulock was one of the best offensive defenseman in the league as a rookie , nobodies 😂


Well in his rookie season he had 32 points in 68 GP and the season trotz took over he popped off.
Feb. 2, 2022 at 11:38 a.m.
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Well in his rookie season he had 32 points in 68 GP and the season trotz took over he popped off.


Pulock's rookie season was better than the 1st season with trotz as head coach.
Feb. 2, 2022 at 12:21 p.m.
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Pulock's rookie season was better than the 1st season with trotz as head coach.


He got a couple more assists in the first season with trotz but he scored more goals in his rookie season.
 
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