I think the canes would want a tad bit more for turcotte, but I’m not against the idea of the rangers trading for him. I can see maybe lundkvist, kravtsov, and a second for turcotte.

Sign me UP

Jones is not the defenseman the Kings want. For Turcotte, you're looking at sending out K'Andre Miller.



Changing Jones to Lundkvist does nothing for LA. Their prospect and current NHL pipelines at RD are absolutely stacked.

I submitted something similar last week and Kings fans on here were saying that they have a bunch of RHD prospects so Nils wouldn't be as valuable to them. They do need scoring though so a LHD offensive defenseman, a sniper RW and a second could work. If the Rangers have to include a bit more, I think they do that but not much more

That trade doesnt get Turcotte's skates.

Vegas likely would rather trade Karlsson and Dadonov rather than Smith and youll probably need a better chip than Gauthier.

Honestly, there's been a lot of discussion on these boards between LA and NYR fans. The pretty standard thought process from LA fans is that Turcotte is worth Miller and a 2nd. Kravtsov is interesting, but the fact remains that the Kings have too many forward prospects that are ready to play NHL minutes. Bringing in Kravtsov just clouds that progression even more. In addition, LA has seen first-hand the effect NYR development has had on forwards, with the Lias Andersson experiment. While I like the kid, the Kings don't seem to be on the same page and he just can't break through to get consistent minutes. I'm not sure LA wants to take another gamble on a "forward-gone-wrong" experiment from NY.

That’s fair, I’m fine with keeping kravtsov and sending the second then. In all fairness, Kravtsov hasn’t really done much with the Rangers, yes he’s played some games but he hasn’t really played much in the AHL, he’s more of a product of poor attitude across the seas if anything but I can see what you’re saying and to certain extent I agree. The rangers’ problem is rushing kids and not letting them get their groove in a lesser scaled scene.

The Kings should not want K’Andre Miller when a guy like Chychrun is on the table. Miller makes some horrible decisions out there. He passes the puck in front of his own net still.
Turcotte for Kakko.

The problem with Chychrun is the asking price. If they could get Chychrun straight up for Turcotte, then they'd likely pull the trigger immediately. However, the asking price for Chychrun is reportedly insane, and not something that Blake is inclined to meet.

Turcotte for K'Andre Miller + 2nd and LA would probably be interested. They might be interested in doing Kupari for Jones + 2nd.

Turcotte = Miller + 2nd
Kupari + 2nd = Miller
Kupari = Jones + 2nd

Those Kupari deals look good. The Turcotte deal is not good for the Kings.

Miller plus the 2022 second is the right deal for us. As my friend @PuckLuck_77 says, we have enough young forwards to work into the system as it is. (Byfield, Kaliyev, Kupari, Turcotte to name just a few, with Fah-gee-mo, Grundstrom, Madden, Thomas pending, and others.)

Trading from a position of strength to address a position of weakness. With where the Kings and Rangers are in their rebuild, neither is going to be inclined to give up the better player. Turcotte is the best player being discussed. Of course the Kings would prefer to give up a lesser piece to acquire the best player in the trade, but then the Rangers would probably balk.

If a deal is going to get done, someone needs to be willing to accept a 2nd to downgrade in prospect quality. Kings fans are going to say it should be the Rangers. Ranger fans are going to say it should be the Kings. In all likelihood, neither will be willing to and a deal won't get done. The deals I mentioned are approximately fair value though.

For Miller and a second I’d pull the trigger, that’s a very good deal for all sides.

Theres no reason to trade Turcotte for Miller. Miller is not very good. If you want to get rid of Turcotte then add the extra pieces to get the guy who was in the running for a Norris in Chychrun. Turcotte is a major trade chip to waste on Miller. If the Leafs miss out again maybe Marner is available. Maybe Laine becomes available if Columbus doesnt want to pay him.
Miller is worse than Bjornfot and Anderson defensively and not good enough offensively to be the target in a Turcotte trade.

No its not.
Would you trade Kakko for Bjornfot and a 2nd?

Chychrun is having a terrible season and has really only had one good year in the NHL. I think he's a good player and would be a solid get, but he hasn't had prolonged success in the league. Giving up the Coyotes asking price would be a huge mistake. If they lower their asking price to something reasonable (2nd + Turcotte), then the Kings should take a look.

Hard pass on both Marner and Laine. Neither of those players are worth their contracts.

That's not a valid comparison because the Rangers don't need defensemen and do desperately need centers. I think Kakko for Turcotte and a 2nd would be a valid comparison though.

Kakko for Turcotte and a 2nd is more of a fair value I think

I didnt mean go get those players in particular. I just meant Turcotte in a package can get you a high impact player.

Absolutely not, I also wouldn’t put Kakko in a deal for Turcotte.