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Quick Rebuild

Created by: Skedn
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 8, 2022
Published: Feb. 8, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
FLA
  1. Chiarot, Ben
  2. 2022 4th round pick (TBL)
2.
MTL
  1. Arcuri, Francesco [Reserve List]
  2. Bar, Jack [Reserve List]
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (DAL)
3.
4.
MTL
  1. Korczak, Ryder [Reserve List]
  2. 2022 4th round pick (WPG)
NYR
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni ($2,500,000 retained)
5.
MTL
  1. Boltmann, Jake [Reserve List]
  2. Dubé, Dillon
  3. Heineman, Emil [Reserve List]
  4. 2022 1st round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi
  2. Smith, Reilly ($2,500,000 retained)
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (DAL)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$75,843,308$597,561$2,457,500$5,656,692
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
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$917,831$917,831
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
C
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 3
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$789,167$789,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$761,250$761,250
LD/RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1

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Feb. 8, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
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Hmm. Are you sure you're not a Vegas fan? And/or someone who reeeeally hates Calgary?
Feb. 8, 2022 at 11:51 a.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Hmm. Are you sure you're not a Vegas fan? And/or someone who reeeeally hates Calgary?


Changed the Calgary trade a bit. How does it feel now?

And for the vegas trade, I wonder what do you think they should add to this trade to make it fair? I feel like its pretty even, maybe drop the 3rd round? Idk
Feb. 8, 2022 at 11:53 a.m.
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Quoting: Skedn
Changed the Calgary trade a bit. How does it feel now?

And for the vegas trade, I wonder what do you think they should add to this trade to make it fair? I feel like its pretty even, maybe drop the 3rd round? Idk


Seems pretty fair to me. One of the better ones on here actually
Feb. 8, 2022 at 11:58 a.m.
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Quoting: Skedn
Changed the Calgary trade a bit. How does it feel now?

And for the vegas trade, I wonder what do you think they should add to this trade to make it fair? I feel like its pretty even, maybe drop the 3rd round? Idk


1- Still expecting to much in return for what you are offering.

2- You are trying to eat 11+M of cap for them AND handing them a goal scorer with a good contract. This is the equivalent of giving them a four-girl lap dance, complete with poppin' bottles, for free... and then the girls go home with them. They should be paying you like a 1st or a top prospect for all this good lovin' - not getting the best asset in the deal by miles. It's so far out of whack, just start over from scratch and remember they are in a desperate situation.
Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:03 p.m.
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Value aside, some of which are way off, how is this a quick rebuild? This team looks to still be bottoming out.
Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:04 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
1- Still expecting to much in return for what you are offering.

2- You are trying to eat 11+M of cap for them AND handing them a goal scorer with a good contract. This is the equivalent of giving them a four-girl lap dance, complete with poppin' bottles, for free... and then the girls go home with them. They should be paying you like a 1st or a top prospect for all this good lovin' - not getting the best asset in the deal by miles. It's so far out of whack, just start over from scratch and remember they are in a desperate situation.


It is 11M in contract but Reilly only have the rest of the year left and Zadonov have 1 year after this one. Maybe if we drop the 3rd and they add a 2nd would make more sense, but I think they can easily find a deal without touching 1st round picks or top prospect.
Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:06 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Value aside, some of which are way off, how is this a quick rebuild? This team looks to still be bottoming out.


Yeah for like 2 years, but they get young prospect that will be NHL ready sooner than if they only get picks.
Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Skedn
It is 11M in contract but Reilly only have the rest of the year left and Zadonov have 1 year after this one. Maybe if we drop the 3rd and they add a 2nd would make more sense, but I think they can easily find a deal without touching 1st round picks or top prospect.


No, you misunderstand. That 11M of cap eating is only this season (otherwise known as the now, where they are over the barrel like you would not believe). I didn't even count next season.

Seriously, man, this is beyond a gift. Any GM who would do this deal should not just be fired, he should be arrested and charged. It's psychotic. Take away Toffoli, take away ANYTHING else going Vegas' way and start asking for more.

Not trying to be mean here, just trying to offer some real talk.
Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:13 p.m.
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Habs pass
Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:20 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
No, you misunderstand. That 11M of cap eating is only this season (otherwise known as the now, where they are over the barrel like you would not believe). I didn't even count next season.

Seriously, man, this is beyond a gift. Any GM who would do this deal should not just be fired, he should be arrested and charged. It's psychotic. Take away Toffoli, take away ANYTHING else going Vegas' way and start asking for more.

Not trying to be mean here, just trying to offer some real talk.


I agree, Habs can get really strong really quick in this type of deal. Dadonov is going to be hard to move without giving up at least a 2nd. Smith will be easier but teams will look to buy low on him so teams probably only give up a 2nd or 3rd. So basically you can do the deal as is but remove everything from the Habs and put a 2nd or 3rd or even future considerations IMO any way and that's without taking into account the 11 Mil savings this year or future cap relief.
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:27 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
No, you misunderstand. That 11M of cap eating is only this season (otherwise known as the now, where they are over the barrel like you would not believe). I didn't even count next season.

Seriously, man, this is beyond a gift. Any GM who would do this deal should not just be fired, he should be arrested and charged. It's psychotic. Take away Toffoli, take away ANYTHING else going Vegas' way and start asking for more.

Not trying to be mean here, just trying to offer some real talk.


Quoting: Campabee
I agree, Habs can get really strong really quick in this type of deal. Dadonov is going to be hard to move without giving up at least a 2nd. Smith will be easier but teams will look to buy low on him so teams probably only give up a 2nd or 3rd. So basically you can do the deal as is but remove everything from the Habs and put a 2nd or 3rd or even future considerations IMO any way and that's without taking into account the 11 Mil savings this year or future cap relief.


Well what about this then :

To MTL : Korczak, Kaedan
Smith, Reilly
Dean, Zach
Dadonov, Evgeni
Stephenson, Chandler

To VGK : Lehkonen, Artturi
Toffoli, Tyler
Paquette, Cédric

I posted this trade yesterday, but it looked like some Vegas fan wanted to choke me (which I can understand why). So, for you guys how does it looks? Is it good enough?
Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:31 p.m.
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Well what about this then :

To MTL : Korczak, Kaedan
Smith, Reilly
Dean, Zach
Dadonov, Evgeni
Stephenson, Chandler

To VGK : Lehkonen, Artturi
Toffoli, Tyler
Paquette, Cédric

I posted this trade yesterday, but it looked like some Vegas fan wanted to choke me (which I can understand why). So, for you guys how does it looks? Is it good enough?



Well, straight off the top, you're not getting Stephenson. Not a chance in hell. So talking about the rest is pointless.
Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:58 p.m.
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Well what about this then :

To MTL : Korczak, Kaedan
Smith, Reilly
Dean, Zach
Dadonov, Evgeni
Stephenson, Chandler

To VGK : Lehkonen, Artturi
Toffoli, Tyler
Paquette, Cédric

I posted this trade yesterday, but it looked like some Vegas fan wanted to choke me (which I can understand why). So, for you guys how does it looks? Is it good enough?


Here is how desperate Vegas is getting, there are reports (from guys like Freidman, Serivalli and Dreger) that Vegas is considering moving Theodore or Martinez since teams are looking to buy low on other guys almost to the point of making it not worth their time to trade them. That being said I don't see them moving Stephenson at any cost or Theodore but certainly not for that package and Montreal isn't adding to the original overpayment either.

I think though since Eichel is within 2 weeks of his return you might be able to pry Theodore out with the RIGHT package, maybe something like Theodore + Dadonov for Romanov and a pick in the 2nd round or later.
Feb. 8, 2022 at 1:13 p.m.
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Yeah for like 2 years, but they get young prospect that will be NHL ready sooner than if they only get picks.


They might never be NHL ready. The majority of prospects don’t pan out. I don’t really see much here in teh way of top end talent. I don’t see a number one d man of the future. I see probably a low end 1C in suzuki (calm down, that’s not a bad thing, that’s still a very good player), and not much else.

Whats the roadway for this team being relevant in three years?
 
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