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2 Moves I Hate

Created by: OB16
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 21, 2022
Published: Feb. 21, 2022
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I absolutely hate these two moves and know they won’t happen and hope they don’t. But it is an interesting looking team… Thoughts on not necessarily the moves, but the build of the team and on ice aspect?
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Anderson, Josh ($1,000,000 retained)
MTL
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Klingberg, John ($1,500,000 retained)
DAL
  1. Abramov, Mikhail
  2. Holl, Justin
  3. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
2024
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$80,494,783$0$0$1,005,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,800,000$3,800,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,250,000$1,250,000 ($125,000$125K$125,000$125K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1

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Feb. 21, 2022 at 2:35 p.m.
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Read description: I don’t want or think these moves will happen… just thoughts on how the build of this team would perform.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 2:37 p.m.
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I would die if we got Anderson. Thank god montreal thinks hes untouchable
Feb. 21, 2022 at 2:41 p.m.
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I would die if we got Anderson. Thank god montreal thinks hes untouchable


I posted this because Friedman said he’s getting mixed signals on Anderson and he might be available…
Feb. 21, 2022 at 2:41 p.m.
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Feb. 21, 2022 at 3:03 p.m.
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Edited Feb. 21, 2022 at 6:52 p.m.
Value is decent on the Anderson offer but the only problem is that Montreal loves him and won’t move him unless a team severely overpays. He has term left on his deal so they could easily wait till the off-season and get more teams in the mix to drive the bidding war up. Anything from Toronto starts with a 1st and a top prospect because of the rivalry - you’re likely looking at a 1st + Matt Knies as just the starting point, something that’s far too rich for Toronto to consider
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Feb. 21, 2022 at 3:40 p.m.
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I too hate these deals.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 6:29 p.m.
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If you want Anderson you'll have to give a package that looks like 1st + Niemela. And without retention too wink Leafs fans are a fkin joke lmaooo...
Feb. 21, 2022 at 6:54 p.m.
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If you want Anderson you'll have to give a package that looks like 1st + Niemela. And without retention too wink Leafs fans are a fkin joke lmaooo...


Anderson is not worth that by a long shot. Montreal would definitely ask for a 1st and a prospect from Toronto because of the rivalry, but it wouldn’t be their top prospect. Montreal won’t get that return form anyone.

If you think that, then you’re calling the wrong people a joke - you should look in the mirror.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 7:17 p.m.
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Anderson is not worth that by a long shot. Montreal would definitely ask for a 1st and a prospect from Toronto because of the rivalry, but it wouldn’t be their top prospect. Montreal won’t get that return form anyone.

If you think that, then you’re calling the wrong people a joke - you should look in the mirror.


Anderson is worth it wink
Feb. 21, 2022 at 7:23 p.m.
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Anderson is worth it wink


Habs fans can dream that all they want - still doesn’t make it reality.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 7:25 p.m.
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Habs fans can dream that all they want - still doesn’t make it reality.


A power forward this fast that can thrive the play with a great shot will always be extremely valuable. More than his production. Would you say Ryan Reaves is worth a 1st ? Yet he was traded for one in the past !! Stop looking at pure stats wink
Feb. 21, 2022 at 7:29 p.m.
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Anderson is not worth that by a long shot. Montreal would definitely ask for a 1st and a prospect from Toronto because of the rivalry, but it wouldn’t be their top prospect. Montreal won’t get that return form anyone.

If you think that, then you’re calling the wrong people a joke - you should look in the mirror.


I agree, which is why they shouldn't trade him.
Montreal has to want what you are offering more than they want Anderson. It might not be a top piece, but it has to at least be an intriguing one.
A 2nd and couple of relatively average players aren't going to cut it. If you want retention, you probably don't want him enough to make a good enough offer either.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 7:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Tarlam01
A power forward this fast that can thrive the play with a great shot will always be extremely valuable. More than his production. Would you say Ryan Reaves is worth a 1st ? Yet he was traded for one in the past !! Stop looking at pure stats wink


Quoting: ricochetii
I agree, which is why they shouldn't trade him.
Montreal has to want what you are offering more than they want Anderson. It might not be a top piece, but it has to at least be an intriguing one.
A 2nd and couple of relatively average players aren't going to cut it. If you want retention, you probably don't want him enough to make a good enough offer either.


I don’t think you both realize how bad his contract is. He’s not worth $5.5M long term, he had all the leverage in negotiations and Bergevin caved in and gave it to him. He’s highly, highly inconsistent.

I can almost guarantee you that no team in the league is going to give Montreal a 1st and a top prospect. Keep dreaming Habs fans. Keep dreaming.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 7:40 p.m.
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I don’t think you both realize how bad his contract is. He’s not worth $5.5M long term, he had all the leverage in negotiations and Bergevin caved in and gave it to him. He’s highly, highly inconsistent.

I can almost guarantee you that no team in the league is going to give Montreal a 1st and a top prospect. Keep dreaming Habs fans. Keep dreaming.


I agreed with you. Why are you disagreeing with my agreement? Not clear?

He won't get a good offer because you have to value him more highly than Montreal (highly unlikely), take him at his full cap hit (somewhat unlikely), and offer something intriguing (difficult).
Feb. 21, 2022 at 8:31 p.m.
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I posted this because Friedman said he’s getting mixed signals on Anderson and he might be available…


Oh boy. Anyone that inquires is an idiot. He really isn't good
 
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