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TDL 21

Created by: User123409871234
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 20, 2022
Published: Mar. 20, 2022
Team: 2021-22 Minnesota Wild
Trades
1.
MIN
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (MTL)
  2. 2023 4th round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. McBain, Jack [Reserve List]
2.
MIN
  1. Fleury, Marc-André
  2. Gustafsson, Erik
CHI
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (MTL)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (MIN)
3.
MIN
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Talbot, Cam
Buyouts
  • Zach Parise: $2,371,794
  • Ryan Suter: $2,371,794
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Victor Rask: $2,000,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Victor Rask: $875,000 ($2,000,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$81,500,000$81,820,254$0$815,000-$320,254
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Kaprizov, Kirill
$9,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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Hartman, Ryan
$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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Zuccarello, Mats
$6,000,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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Fiala, Kevin
$5,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Gaudreau, Frédérick
$1,200,000
C
UFA - 2
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Boldy, Matthew
$880,833
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Foligno, Marcus
$3,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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Eriksson Ek, Joel
$5,250,000
C
UFA - 8
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Greenway, Jordan
$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Dewar, Connor
$825,833
LW
RFA - 1
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Jost, Tyson
$2,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Deslauriers, Nicolas
$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Gustafsson, Erik
$800,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Spurgeon, Jared
$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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Fleury, Marc-André
$3,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
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Brodin, Jonas
$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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Dumba, Matt
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Kähkönen, Kaapo
$725,000
G
UFA - 1
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Kulikov, Dmitry
$2,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Addison, Calen
$795,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Goligoski, Alex
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 1
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Benn, Jordie
$900,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Merrill, Jon
$850,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Duhaime, Brandon
$750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Bjugstad, Nick
$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1

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Mar. 20 at 12:16 p.m.
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Gustafsson sucks and isn't better than what we have.
Mar. 20 at 12:17 p.m.
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Gustafsson isn't sensible, Fleury can be retained, he'd cost more than that.
Mar. 20 at 12:18 p.m.
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Habs only add the second if he signs. So make it a conditional 2 in 2023.
Mar. 20 at 12:19 p.m.
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you can have our early 3rd, not our early 2nd
Mar. 20 at 12:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Snipe52
Habs only add the second if he signs. So make it a conditional 2 in 2023.


Hes not getting traded anywhere that he won't sign.
Mar. 20 at 12:20 p.m.
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Montreal's 2nd is pretty much the equivalent to a late 1st. Hard to see them moving that, let alone + for McBain.
Mar. 20 at 12:21 p.m.
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Hes not getting traded anywhere that he won't sign.


Well he doesn’t have that control and is UFA if he doesn’t sign (I believe). So if I were the Habs I would want that condition to make sure
Mar. 20 at 12:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Snipe52
Well he doesn’t have that control and is UFA if he doesn’t sign (I believe). So if I were the Habs I would want that condition to make sure


I dont think any team would trade for him without knowing that he will sign. He wants to burn his first year this year, and needs to sign by tomorrow to do it, so more likely than not will be dealt today. That being said, his agent is reportedly supposed to come with a list of 5+ teams that he will sign with otherwise the wild won't trade him and he will have to wait another year to burn the first year of his deal.
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Mar. 20 at 12:29 p.m.
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I dont think any team would trade for him without knowing that he will sign. He wants to burn his first year this year, and needs to sign by tomorrow to do it, so more likely than not will be dealt today. That being said, his agent is reportedly supposed to come with a list of 5+ teams that he will sign with otherwise the wild won't trade him and he will have to wait another year to burn the first year of his deal.


I don’t think he actually has to be moved by TDL. I think he can still be dealt and sign after, but it just means he isn’t eligible for playoffs. Which, if it’s somewhere like Montreal, isn’t happening anyway.
Mar. 20 at 12:32 p.m.
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I don’t think he actually has to be moved by TDL. I think he can still be dealt and sign after, but it just means he isn’t eligible for playoffs. Which, if it’s somewhere like Montreal, isn’t happening anyway.


Can you trade a player after the TDL? Like serious question, I dont know if reserve list players or rights to players are exempt from the TDL.
Mar. 20 at 12:39 p.m.
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Quoting: User123409871234
I dont think any team would trade for him without knowing that he will sign. He wants to burn his first year this year, and needs to sign by tomorrow to do it, so more likely than not will be dealt today. That being said, his agent is reportedly supposed to come with a list of 5+ teams that he will sign with otherwise the wild won't trade him and he will have to wait another year to burn the first year of his deal.


He doesn't actually need to sign by tomorrow. He needs to be on a team's reserve list by tomorrow to be eligible to play in the playoffs. He can sign later this year and have it count to burn a year this year.

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I don’t think he actually has to be moved by TDL. I think he can still be dealt and sign after, but it just means he isn’t eligible for playoffs. Which, if it’s somewhere like Montreal, isn’t happening anyway.


That's my understanding. I'm drawing a blank on the specific example, but I swear I've seen non-playoff teams trade prospects after the TDL before. It's just pretty rare.
Mar. 20 at 12:40 p.m.
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Can you trade a player after the TDL? Like serious question, I dont know if reserve list players or rights to players are exempt from the TDL.


Yeah I don’t know the nuances or specifics in the CBA, but he can still be moved after Monday’s deadline. Seravelli outlined it in one of his recent blogs, but i can’t find it again rn.

Edit - found it here. 16 on this list:
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/seravalli-all-eyes-on-no-1-trade-target-%F0%9F%8E%AF-claude-giroux-as-deal-nears/
Mar. 20 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: User123409871234
Can you trade a player after the TDL? Like serious question, I dont know if reserve list players or rights to players are exempt from the TDL.


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Yeah I don’t know the nuances or specifics in the CBA, but he can still be moved after Monday’s deadline. Seravelli outlined it in one of his recent blogs, but i can’t find it again rn.

Edit - found it here. 16 on this list:
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/seravalli-all-eyes-on-no-1-trade-target-%F0%9F%8E%AF-claude-giroux-as-deal-nears/


Found an example looking through the trade history section of this site. March 21st, 2018 the Oilers traded a 3rd round pick to the Flyers for the rights to Cooper Marody.

Edit: My guess is Guerin set the TDL as a deadline for McBain's advisor to find a team willing to trade for his rights because he'd want the asset gained from that trade to be used to go out and get a player to help the team now.
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Mar. 20 at 1:03 p.m.
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Quoting: JayTea
Found an example looking through the trade history section of this site. March 21st, 2018 the Oilers traded a 3rd round pick to the Flyers for the rights to Cooper Marody.

Edit: My guess is Guerin set the TDL as a deadline for McBain's advisor to find a team willing to trade for his rights because he'd want the asset gained from that trade to be used to go out and get a player to help the team now.


Nice good find, that spells out it pretty nicely.

And yeah, that’s a good point on the TDL deadline for McBain. Im hoping he gets moved before, just so we can see the value……it’ll also be nice to not see 100 comments saying he’s worthless and can force UFA.
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Mar. 20 at 1:15 p.m.
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Nice good find, that spells out it pretty nicely.

And yeah, that’s a good point on the TDL deadline for McBain. Im hoping he gets moved before, just so we can see the value……it’ll also be nice to not see 100 comments saying he’s worthless and can force UFA.


It's amusing to me how many people spend hours on a site dedicated to to the business side of the league and somehow have no concept of how things actually work. lol
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