I have and I know the wild cap situation. seeing how teams will pay a 3rd rounder to move up 2-4 spots in the 1st round it is a tremendous value. so moving up from 36 into anywhere that starts lower than 30 has value to the team lots of value. doesnt mean they make the right pick but it is highly valued.

you know those conversion from KHL to NHL really only hold for all start players right.. ask oilers fans about KHL goalie of the year Mikko koskienen and how that translated over....

And yes I do feel you about the dumber by the message considering every post i have seen agrees with my side and i have not seen one in support of yours.....

You have to know that using a goalie as an example of KHL translation is extremely disingenuous.

Gritsyuk is currently having the 5th best age 20 season in KHL History, by points per game. Better than Panarin and Buchnevich, but behind Tarasenko, Kaprizov and Kuzy. He’s an excellent prospect regardless of where he was drafted.

A prospect who would be in ahl with Minnesota and wouldn't make team because wild are stacked there. A bunch of team's including ottowa wants fiala. Just because you think something doesn't make it true

I said as much that Ottawa likely beats this offer. If Dorion wants to offer a high 22 first or unprotected 23 first + good prospects, that’s his prerogative. But this is not a nothing offer and thinking it is is a failure to read the cap situation, strength of Gritsyuk of a prospect, and the relatively equal value between early firsts and late seconds.

You don't know the cap situation. Wild fans and Guerin does. You selected the guy in 5th round and to now say he has the value of 1st round pick is widely exxageraion. So yeah, it's a nothing offer

The vast majority of mid to late first round forwards (say 16th to 32nd OA) don’t produce at the rate Gritsyuk is currently producing in their respective leagues at age 20. The valuation of a 1st rounds varies wildly from 1st to 32nd and Gritsyuk currently is, at the very least, close to that 32nd in value of not higher.

I mean just go through the 2019 NHL Draft right now, look at picks 16 through 31. Gritsyuk right now is a better prospect than all but like 7 of them (Newhook, Krebs; Heinola, Bjornfot, Tomasin, McMichael, Pelletier)

Clearly you don’t know who Gritsyuk is

You can keep using faulty logic all you want. You aren't convincing anyone to say yes to your bad trade

You…you know the name of this website right?

Wasnt Kaprizov also a 5th round that played well in the KHL? Why were Wild fans saying he’s gonna be good because apparently KHL doesn’t equal NHL? If you’re gonna use that logic, don’t biased

Clearly i do, But what he puts up in the KHL and NHL are two totally different things.

Y’all so so biased
Wasn’t Kaprizov also a late round pick from the KHL that developed into a superstar?
Keep using flawed logic and making new burner accounts

You can say that with every prospect
OHL isn’t the same as NHL
SHL isn’t the same as NHL
AHL isn’t the same as NHL

A lot of those league are more equivalent to the NHL than the KHL is..

E: Damn wrong quote

Omg lmao

This could not be more wrong.

The KHL is the closest league skill wise to the NHL. The transition from a larger ice surface to a smaller one is FAR FAR FAR easier than the skill transition from the AHL or any juniors leagues.

It’s not my trade. You’re talking about Gritsyuk as if he’s nothing at all when clearly you know nothing about the season he’s putting up. And you clearly don’t understand the value of late first round picks and the propects that get taken in those picks. If you actually compare those prospects at age 20, to Gritsyuk right now, Gritsyuk is right in there with a lot of them. Better than some, not as good as others. Not sure why you think that logic is faulty, other than you being too stupid to understand it

Bro what

In terms of skill KHL is the closest thing to the NHL

in the last decade, gritsyuk's per game age 20 scoring (.72) is up there with buchnevich (.64), panarin (.62), kuzya (.86), and kirill/tank (.87) https://t.co/xkkqN7z5pH pic.twitter.com/2ZPfWj159H

— call up dineen (@maurojorgfan) January 18, 2022

Wild fans are saying this when their superstar literally was in the same position as Gritsyuk

Oilers reject we will keep pulijarvi.

“No I don’t think this trade would happen before you get mad in the comments”

Or you being too ignorant and stupid and bully to go to name calling because wild fans aren't going to agree to jersey fans offer for fiala. Get over yourself ass

Yeah, I do. Jersey fans make offers and then when other teams fans say no, they can't deal with it. So what's your point?