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Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 11, 2022
Published: Apr. 11, 2022
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1.
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  1. Brown, Connor ($1,800,000 retained)
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I think vegas adds but idk what whiteclouds value is like
2.
OTT
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
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idk balance this somehow
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  1. White, Colin ($1,000,000 retained)
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:03 a.m.
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I'm lost on the Vegas trade. They'd need to give considerably for Ottawa to give Brown on a rental at 1.8m let alone the money theyre taking back on Dadonov. Is Whitecloud and his extension really worth all that trouble?

Drouin bit is tricky but I see the vision. Still think the rumoured deal was likely around Dvorak but time will tell.
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:11 a.m.
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Quoting: TheBoyDuddus
I'm lost on the Vegas trade. They'd need to give considerably for Ottawa to give Brown on a rental at 1.8m let alone the money theyre taking back on Dadonov. Is Whitecloud and his extension really worth all that trouble?

Drouin bit is tricky but I see the vision. Still think the rumoured deal was likely around Dvorak but time will tell.


i mean im a petty big fan of whitecloud from what ive seen of vegas games, think hed be a really nice complemet to their left side at a nice $ and has term. I figure vegas adds but i think whitecloud is the main piece of value imo
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:12 a.m.
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No Vegas adds nothing imo, if anything I think Ottawa adds.
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:13 a.m.
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No Vegas adds nothing imo, if anything I think Ottawa adds.


interesting
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:16 a.m.
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Quoting: Borocop
interesting


I mean Dadonov only has one year left and has been fairly productive, Brown is a UFA but Whitecloud has a nice reasonable extension with term, is that really worth giving it up for dumping Dadonov, to me it's not but I get the situation Vegas is in though there's probably other options too so Idk.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:20 a.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I mean Dadonov only has one year left and has been fairly productive, Brown is a UFA but Whitecloud has a nice reasonable extension with term, is that really worth giving it up for dumping Dadonov, to me it's not but I get the situation Vegas is in though there's probably other options too so Idk.


you know what i totally forgot dadonov would only have 1 year left after this one, but they are still getting like 6 millionish in capspace,and an upgrade at winger at the expense of their third pairing RD. I think its kind of fairish
Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:25 a.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I mean Dadonov only has one year left and has been fairly productive, Brown is a UFA but Whitecloud has a nice reasonable extension with term, is that really worth giving it up for dumping Dadonov, to me it's not but I get the situation Vegas is in though there's probably other options too so Idk.


Brown by himself at 1.8m while scoring at the 60 point pace he's been at is at least a 1st and even for 1 year Vegas would likely still need to add to dump Dadonov. I'm not sure what Whitecloud's value is but I'm doubtful its a 1st+?
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:29 a.m.
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you know what i totally forgot dadonov would only have 1 year left after this one, but they are still getting like 6 millionish in capspace,and an upgrade at winger at the expense of their third pairing RD. I think its kind of fairish


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Brown by himself at 1.8m while scoring at the 60 point pace he's been at is at least a 1st and even for 1 year Vegas would likely still need to add to dump Dadonov. I'm not sure what Whitecloud's value is but I'm doubtful its a 1st+?


Isn't Whitecloud 2RHD material? Thought he was better than 3rd pair but maybe I'm wrong about that.
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:31 a.m.
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Quoting: TheBoyDuddus
Brown by himself at 1.8m while scoring at the 60 point pace he's been at is at least a 1st and even for 1 year Vegas would likely still need to add to dump Dadonov. I'm not sure what Whitecloud's value is but I'm doubtful its a 1st+?


i think brown @1.8 with 1 year left for Whitecloud is almost a wash, maybe even ottawa adds a touch tbh. dadonov being thrown in was my way of swinging the value a bit so ottawa could get potentially another small piece
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:34 a.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Isn't Whitecloud 2RHD material? Thought he was better than 3rd pair but maybe I'm wrong about that.


i mean i think hes certainly serviceable on the second pair, but i think hes like ideally a teams 4th or best 5th d-man. I just like his style of play and how it fits next to either sanderson or chabot, both of whom would theoretically do most of the heavy lifing on those pairings anyways
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:03 a.m.
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I think Ottawa adds another piece to the habs trade
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 10:26 a.m.
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I think Ottawa adds another piece to the habs trade


what are we thinking
Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:21 p.m.
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what are we thinking


Jarventie?
Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:32 p.m.
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Jarventie?


meh I probably wouldnt do him for drouin straight up tbh, drouins made of paper maché. id do like a future third or something but thats probably about as much as id add value-wise. Prospects maybe like Guenette or someone more on that level
Apr. 12, 2022 at 1:11 p.m.
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If they trade white I hope they don’t retain.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 1:33 p.m.
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No way is Vegas going to trade Whitecloud, he's only 25 and making less than $3 million for the next 6 years. Hilarious that his name always comes up in these trades.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 1:34 p.m.
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meh I probably wouldnt do him for drouin straight up tbh, drouins made of paper maché. id do like a future third or something but thats probably about as much as id add value-wise. Prospects maybe like Guenette or someone more on that level


Sokolov?
Apr. 12, 2022 at 1:42 p.m.
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Sokolov?


eh, not really trying to part with any of our goalscoring prospects for him tbh
Apr. 12, 2022 at 1:44 p.m.
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No way is Vegas going to trade Whitecloud, he's only 25 and making less than $3 million for the next 6 years. Hilarious that his name always comes up in these trades.


i know hes good but i just wasnt sure how valuable he was to the team stuck behind petro and theodore
Apr. 12, 2022 at 1:45 p.m.
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eh, not really trying to part with any of our goalscoring prospects for him tbh


The problem is, when I see white at 3.75m, I see no value, no negative and no positive. IMO drouins value is 2nd + 4th. But I'll just ask for the value of a 2nd.
Sokolov/ Jarvebtie / JBD? / 2nd
Apr. 12, 2022 at 1:55 p.m.
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The problem is, when I see white at 3.75m, I see no value, no negative and no positive. IMO drouins value is 2nd + 4th. But I'll just ask for the value of a 2nd.
Sokolov/ Jarvebtie / JBD? / 2nd


your view on white is flawed then. at 3.75 he has value, thats what a middle 6 player costs and thats what he is, he's probably worth like a late second-round pick at that price tag but since drouins ceiling is higher i figure the sens would add a touch. but im not really interesting in putting anything of note in, id do like a pick swap where the sens send the TB second if the habs send a third this year but thats about it
Apr. 12, 2022 at 1:56 p.m.
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your view on white is flawed then. at 3.75 he has value, thats what a middle 6 player costs and thats what he is, he's probably worth like a late second-round pick at that price tag but since drouins ceiling is higher i figure the sens would add a touch. but im not really interesting in putting anything of note in, id do like a pick swap where the sens send the TB second if the habs send a third this year but thats about it


Sokolov + White 1m retained
For
Drouin + 4th
??
Apr. 12, 2022 at 2:00 p.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Sokolov + White 1m retained
For
Drouin + 4th
??


nah not really down to trade skolov, looks like hes going to be a good third line player with added PP value as a shooter. Id do like cole reinhart or someone who projects as like a complementary player with nothing to offset in return from the habs, but anyone with goalscoring value im probably not trading, the sens desperately need scorers
Apr. 12, 2022 at 2:01 p.m.
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nah not really down to trade skolov, looks like hes going to be a good third line player with added PP value as a shooter. Id do like cole reinhart or someone who projects as like a complementary player with nothing to offset in return from the habs, but anyone with goalscoring value im probably not trading, the sens desperately need scorers


Boucher ?
LMFAO
Apr. 12, 2022 at 2:07 p.m.
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Boucher ?
LMFAO


i dont think i would because i have no idea what he is as a prospect still, if he has another mediocre year next year sure but this season was a write-off for him so id probably keep him out of trades
 
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