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Bruins need a 2c

Created by: YourWinnipegJets
Published: Apr. 12, 2022 at 11:24 p.m.
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Season Days: 40/200 (20%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because the upper limit has been exceeded by one of the trade parties

Logo of the Boston BruinsBoston Bruins

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Studnicka, JackWaivers ExemptBoston BruinsNHL-$153,833011---14033--
Lysell, FabianWaivers ExemptBoston BruinsJunior-$0001---0000--
Lohrei, MasonBoston BruinsReserve List-$0001---------
2022 2nd round pick (Logo of the Boston BruinsBOS)---010------
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Boston BruinsBOS)---100------
2023 3rd round pick (Logo of the Boston BruinsBOS)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Scheifele, MarkWinnipeg JetsNHL-$1,225,000011---67294170--
Vesalainen, KristianWaivers ExemptWinnipeg JetsMinor-$0011---53213--
2023 5th round pick (Logo of the New York RangersNYR)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$712,7482644652411
Change-$1,071,16701-1-1-21
Final-$358,419 (↓)2645 (↑)64 (↓)1 (↓)2 (↓)12 (↑)313970

Logo of the Winnipeg JetsWinnipeg Jets

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Scheifele, MarkWinnipeg JetsNHL-$6,125,000011---67294170--
Vesalainen, KristianWaivers ExemptWinnipeg JetsMinor-$0011---53213--
2023 5th round pick (Logo of the New York RangersNYR)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Studnicka, JackWaivers ExemptBoston BruinsNHL-$769,167011---14033--
Lysell, FabianWaivers ExemptBoston BruinsJunior-$0001---0000--
Lohrei, MasonBoston BruinsReserve List-$0001---------
2022 2nd round pick (Logo of the Boston BruinsBOS)---010------
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Boston BruinsBOS)---100------
2023 3rd round pick (Logo of the Boston BruinsBOS)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$566,6672441533610
Change$5,355,8330-1112-1
Final$5,922,500 (↑)2440 (↓)54 (↑)4 (↑)8 (↑)9 (↓)-31-39-70
Apr. 12, 2022 at 11:36 p.m.
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Lol not that bad.
Apr. 13, 2022 at 12:14 a.m.
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That is way way way to much to give up
Apr. 13, 2022 at 9:27 a.m.
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Too much quantity and too little quality that fills no needs for Winnipeg. Lysell and the first are nice add-ons to a main piece, but this deal is missing that main piece for Winnipeg.

The Jets say no.
Apr. 13, 2022 at 1:48 p.m.
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Edited Apr. 13, 2022 at 1:53 p.m.
Quoting: Windjammer
Too much quantity and too little quality that fills no needs for Winnipeg. Lysell and the first are nice add-ons to a main piece, but this deal is missing that main piece for Winnipeg.

The Jets say no.


Lol cmon pal. This is getting insane. No team trades their top three prospects, a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for an aging player. Get real. This is a slam dunk, instant yes.
Apr. 13, 2022 at 2:05 p.m.
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Lol cmon pal. This is getting insane. No team trades their top three prospects, a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for an aging player. Get real. This is a slam dunk, instant yes.


Lol. Get real. When have you ever seen a team trade a player that they have no intention of trading for a bunch of stuff that fills exactly zero needs for them?

It just doesn't happen. You may think the NHL runs like a video game and as long as the rating of the players from your team equal the rating of the player from the other team, it's an instant yes, but in real life teams trade for needs not for a bunch of dimes and nickles when they are trading a dollar.

They may be Boston's top prospects, but that's only because the Bruins are horrible at drafting. It's even funnier when you are calling Studnica a top prospect, as he is has closer to an outright bust than he is to even a B or C level prospect.

So, when you factor in two of the players are pretty much worthless to the Jets, one bring a replacement level center and the other an unneeded LD.

It makes it a quick and easy no from Winnipeg.
Apr. 13, 2022 at 2:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Lol. Get real. When have you ever seen a team trade a player that they have no intention of trading for a bunch of stuff that fills exactly zero needs for them?

It just doesn't happen. You may think the NHL runs like a video game and as long as the rating of the players from your team equal the rating of the player from the other team, it's an instant yes.

They may be Boston's to prospects, but that's only because the Bruins are horrible at drafting. It's even funnier when you are calling Studnica a top prospect, as he is has closer to an outright bust than he is to even a B or C level prospect.

So, when you factor in two of the players are pretty much worthless to the Jets, one bring a replacement level center and the other an unneeded LD.

It makes it a quick and easy no from Winnipeg.


When have i seen a team trade an NHL veteran for futures? Only all the time. It’s the most common form of trade in the NHL. Where have you been bud?

I also don’t think you know who lohrei or lysell is, but it doesn’t really matter. You’ve kind of made your stance of, “everyone on winnipeg is perfect and no trade will ever be good enough,” known.
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Apr. 13, 2022 at 2:18 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
When have i seen a team trade an NHL veteran for futures? Only all the time. It’s the most common form of trade in the NHL. Where have you been bud?

I also don’t think you know who lohrei or lysell is, but it doesn’t really matter. You’ve kind of made your stance of, “everyone on winnipeg is perfect and no trade will ever be good enough,” known.


I've never said anything like that. Sure teams trade for futures, but futures that fill a need, not a pile of stuff that does nothing for them.

Lysell - good right shot forward prospect. Would be a nice add-on to a main piece.

Lohrei - unneeded LD prospect. With Morrissey, Dillon, Stanley, Samberg, Heinola and Chisholm on the left side. He just doesn't serve a purpose.

Studnica - replacement level player. While he may be a top prospect for the Bruins. His ceiling looks to be a marginal 4th liner.

So, your stance of "every Bruin is a generational player and must be evaluated as one of the most valuable pieces in hockey history" seems to be just more of your hyperbole.
Apr. 13, 2022 at 2:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
I've never said anything like that. Sure teams trade for futures, but futures that fill a need, not a pile of stuff that does nothing for them.

Lysell - good right shot forward prospect. Would be a nice add-on to a main piece.

Lohrei - unneeded LD prospect. With Morrissey, Dillon, Stanley, Samberg, Heinola and Chisholm on the left side. He just doesn't serve a purpose.

Studnica - replacement level player. While he may be a top prospect for the Bruins. His ceiling looks to be a marginal 4th liner.

So, your stance of "every Bruin is a generational player and must be evaluated as one of the most valuable pieces in hockey history" seems to be just more of your hyperbole.


Lysell is a main piece. Scheifele isn’t Gretzky. Lysell and a 1st is plenty.
Apr. 13, 2022 at 2:31 p.m.
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Lysell is a main piece. Scheifele isn’t Gretzky. Lysell and a 1st is plenty.


And Lysell isn't Ovechkin. I can see you're stuck on value again. Lysell fills a secondary need for the Jets, not a primary one and as such isn't a main piece. So what you think is fair value is irrelevant as it meets zero needs if the Jets trade Scheifele.

If the Jets trade Scheifele it will be for a primary need. Either a young top 6 center to replace Scheifele, or a young top 4 RHD as the main piece. Definitely not a winger.
Apr. 13, 2022 at 2:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
And Lysell isn't Ovechkin. I can see you're stuck on value again. Lysell fills a secondary need for the Jets, not a primary one and as such isn't a main piece. So what you think is fair value is irrelevant as it meets zero needs if the Jets trade Scheifele.

If the Jets trade Scheifele it will be for a primary need. Either a young top 6 center to replace Scheifele, or a young top 4 RHD as the main piece. Definitely not a winger.


Couple things. If the jets are trading Scheifele, they’re punting and rebuilding. They don’t know what they need in that scenario. What they need is young assets.

It sounds like you’re saying Scheifele would return a young top six NHL center? Why would any team do that?
Apr. 13, 2022 at 2:45 p.m.
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Couple things. If the jets are trading Scheifele, they’re punting and rebuilding. They don’t know what they need in that scenario. What they need is young assets.

It sounds like you’re saying Scheifele would return a young top six NHL center? Why would any team do that?


It's probably extremely unlikely Scheifele moves at all, but if they did move him it would be for a culture change and re-tool not rebuild.

So they Jets know what they have and need as the remainder of the young core would stay intact.

If Scheifele moves, the Jets need another top 6 center to replace him, as Perfetti isn't ready yet and they still need another high end RHD, so those would be the targets.

But, yes there probably aren't many teams that are trading a young top 6 or top 6 potential guy for an older center. The outlier being some possible contenders that think he is the piece that puts him over the top.

All this together points to a slim to none chance that Scheifele is moved at all. Unless he asks for a trade which opens a whole other can of worms.
Apr. 13, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
And Lysell isn't Ovechkin. I can see you're stuck on value again. Lysell fills a secondary need for the Jets, not a primary one and as such isn't a main piece. So what you think is fair value is irrelevant as it meets zero needs if the Jets trade Scheifele.

If the Jets trade Scheifele it will be for a primary need. Either a young top 6 center to replace Scheifele, or a young top 4 RHD as the main piece. Definitely not a winger.


I doubt a top six centre would be coming back when they have perfetti and Lucius in the pipeline. The would likely be asking to fill a whole in the top six winger position. Top four defencemen like u said though would also be a likely piece
Apr. 13, 2022 at 3:31 p.m.
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I doubt a top six centre would be coming back when they have perfetti and Lucius in the pipeline. The would likely be asking to fill a whole in the top six winger position. Top four defencemen like u said though would also be a likely piece


Perfetti hasn't played center in the NHL yet and Lucius is still a few years away. I think the Jets would target a center because without Scheifele the Jets are back in the same position they were before they got PLD, looking for a 2C. I don't think they'll be in a hurry to do that.

It's a lot easier to find a top 6 winger than a top 6 center, so I doubt the Jets would spend one of their best trade pieces on a player that could be found and obtained for less.

I guess we'll see.
Apr. 13, 2022 at 9:48 p.m.
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Lol cmon pal. This is getting insane. No team trades their top three prospects, a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for an aging player. Get real. This is a slam dunk, instant yes.

To be fair Bostons top 3 specs none of them are A specs they 100% have the worst pool in the NHL
Apr. 13, 2022 at 11:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeypal
To be fair Bostons top 3 specs none of them are A specs they 100% have the worst pool in the NHL


100% the worst, huh? That seems a bit hyperbolic. Lysell and lohrei are very good prospects.
Apr. 15, 2022 at 9:58 a.m.
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Scheifele can stay in WInnipeg
 
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