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Flyers trade

Created by: exo2769
Team: 2017-18 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 26, 2017
Published: Apr. 26, 2017
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You gotta give to get. I've seen a lot of trades on here that have the Hawks getting better defensemen. That's not an easy task! There are 3 teams a in the NHL that are stocked with defense and defense prospects. None greater than Anaheim, but I don't see that trade happening as the Hawks are the last team they want to breath life back into. So go to the east coast. I see Carolina and Philly. (Maybe Florida)

Philly is 20th in the league in scoring and Carolina is ironically also 20th. Weird. Anyway, The Hawks have 1 very tradable player without a NTC/NMC. He's also a 2x top 10 scorer, but it'll cost you. However, having soo many D prospects probably won't hurt your team as much as you'd think.

Sharp is 35 now so he gets the Campbell deal with a bonus of $750k so his compensation is $2.25M.

Even with the bonuses applied...AND...excluding any possible Crawford trade. There's $4.75M available to spend. Thornton who is also over 35 could get $4.5M with a 750K bonus for playing 10 games. Just trying to show the possibilities.
Free Agent Signings
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1$3,750,000
1$1,000,000
1$1,500,000
Trades
1.
CHI
    Expansion.
    If a draft pick or B prospect is required...so be it...
    2.
    CHI
    1. Provorov, Ivan
    2. 2018 3rd round pick (PHI)
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    I think Ivan can be a great player in the NHL. Heck he's already pretty darn good. I wouldn't be trading for him if I didn't think so. With Ghost and Morin along with other current vets. I could see their defense being just fine. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if PHI traded one of these (3) players anyway for offense. Maybe you don't like this trade...but hard to imagine you like ANY trade for these players then.
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    2020
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    23$75,000,000$65,884,795$3,558,000$1,790,000$9,115,205
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    $778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
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    $750,000$750,000
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    $2,625,000$2,625,000
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    NMC
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    $1,750,000$1,750,000
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    UFA - 2
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
    RW, C
    UFA - 2
    $5,275,000$5,275,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    $863,333$863,333
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    $717,500$717,500 (Performance Bonus$107,500$108K)
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    $925,000$925,000
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    UFA - 2
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    G
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LD
    UFA - 2
    $6,875,000$6,875,000
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    NMC
    UFA - 7
    $612,500$612,500
    G
    UFA - 1
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    $825,000$825,000
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    Apr. 26, 2017 at 10:27 a.m.
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    Honestly, as a Flyers fan I like the thought of getting Panarin but it won't be with Provorov. He is pretty much universally considered the only untouchable on the current roster. And while the team is stacked with defensive prospects other than Ghost and Provorov the four best prospects have a combined two games of NHL experience. If you wanted Ghost and a pick for Panarin that would probably work for the Flyers but Ghost is due a raise next year which wouldn't work for Chicago. Morin, Hagg, Sanheim, or Myers would fit Chicago's salary cap but are completely untested in the NHL so you would probably end up asking for some major sweeteners to do the deal. And depending what you ask for the Flyers with as conservative as Hextall has been will probably pass. Like I said I like the thought just not with Provorov.
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    Apr. 26, 2017 at 10:37 a.m.
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    Quoting: LeClairbear
    Honestly, as a Flyers fan I like the thought of getting Panarin but it won't be with Provorov. He is pretty much universally considered the only untouchable on the current roster. And while the team is stacked with defensive prospects other than Ghost and Provorov the four best prospects have a combined two games of NHL experience. If you wanted Ghost and a pick for Panarin that would probably work for the Flyers but Ghost is due a raise next year which wouldn't work for Chicago. Morin, Hagg, Sanheim, or Myers would fit Chicago's salary cap but are completely untested in the NHL so you would probably end up asking for some major sweeteners to do the deal. And depending what you ask for the Flyers with as conservative as Hextall has been will probably pass. Like I said I like the thought just not with Provorov.


    Yeah, I hear ya. I did think about the Ghost trade, but due to his salary it would have to include some other major pieces, possibly even Morin or Konecny, which is worse for PHI than just Provorov hence why I didn't do it. Ghost is probably due a $4.5M salary and that's not a real decrease in cap which is what CHI needs. I'm just looking at how much Panarin would help Giroux! They'd be a LETHAL combo!

    Either way, If I were Bowman I'd use...whatever PHI offered as a negotiating starting point with CAR. Both teams can be great trade partners and for the cap crunch CHI is in...Bowman can play off those two teams as borderline playoff teams in the same division to offset that negative cap crunch. And heck, CHI may prefer Slavin anyway!!! hehe
    Apr. 26, 2017 at 10:46 a.m.
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    Quoting: exo2769
    Quoting: LeClairbear
    Honestly, as a Flyers fan I like the thought of getting Panarin but it won't be with Provorov. He is pretty much universally considered the only untouchable on the current roster. And while the team is stacked with defensive prospects other than Ghost and Provorov the four best prospects have a combined two games of NHL experience. If you wanted Ghost and a pick for Panarin that would probably work for the Flyers but Ghost is due a raise next year which wouldn't work for Chicago. Morin, Hagg, Sanheim, or Myers would fit Chicago's salary cap but are completely untested in the NHL so you would probably end up asking for some major sweeteners to do the deal. And depending what you ask for the Flyers with as conservative as Hextall has been will probably pass. Like I said I like the thought just not with Provorov.


    Yeah, I hear ya. I did think about the Ghost trade, but due to his salary it would have to include some other major pieces, possibly even Morin or Konecny, which is worse for PHI than just Provorov hence why I didn't do it. Ghost is probably due a $4.5M salary and that's not a real decrease in cap which is what CHI needs. I'm just looking at how much Panarin would help Giroux! They'd be a LETHAL combo!


    Agreed. But part of the problem is psychology. Philly acquired Pronger and thought they had a keystone defenseman to build around for years. Then he had that freak injury and his career was over. They have been scuffling to find that cornerstone top defensemen for years. Now it looks like they finally hit on one with Provorov. I just don't think they ever let him go in a trade unless one of the other prospects surpasses him or it is something ridiculous like McDavid coming back.

    A Ghost/Morin combo trade would not be out of the question since they are both LHD even though Ghost plays on the Right side. The Flyers need RHD as they only have one (Gudas) on the current roster and one prospect (Myers). So letting two of the lefties go is possible but would be really expensive.
    Apr. 26, 2017 at 11:31 a.m.
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    I wouldn't say that Ghost gets north of 4 AAV unless its for more than 4 or 5 years

    Unless Connor McDavid is coming back, Ivan Provorov is untouchable in my eyes.
    Apr. 26, 2017 at 11:42 a.m.
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    I wouldn't say that Ghost gets north of 4 AAV unless its for more than 4 or 5 years

    Unless Connor McDavid is coming back, Ivan Provorov is untouchable in my eyes.


    So here's a question then. Think back at how you felt about Ghost last year. There was a pretty similar thought for him as Provorov this year...keep in mind Philly isn't my team...BUT I'd dare to say even more! Provorov isn't in the top 7 in Calder consideration on any Calder Memorial tracker (outside of Philly) that I've seen. Ghost had pretty serious consideration to win the whole thing last year!
    Apr. 26, 2017 at 11:59 a.m.
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    Edited Apr. 26, 2017 at 12:10 p.m.
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    So here's a question then. Think back at how you felt about Ghost last year. There was a pretty similar thought for him as Provorov this year...keep in mind Philly isn't my team...BUT I'd dare to say even more! Provorov isn't in the top 7 in Calder consideration on any Calder Memorial tracker (outside of Philly) that I've seen. Ghost had pretty serious consideration to win the whole thing last year!


    That is mostly because Calder voting is skewed towards scoring. Ghost is a much better offensive defensemen than Provorov. Provorov is a much better all around player than Ghost. Even at his best last year nobody thought Ghost was the best defenseman on the team. Just really gifted offensively and an exciting player to watch on a somewhat boring roster. This year almost nobody argues that Provorov is already the best defenseman on the team. (To be fare they did field some real weak Dmen this year so take it with a grain of salt.) And that is as a 19 year old when Ghost was a 22 year old rookie.

    None of this is to put Ghost down but he is what he is. And while not the defensive liability some of the fan base like to label him as he isn't the complete player Provorov is. Ghost is phenomenal at certain aspects of the game while Provorov seems to excel at everything. This is all just my opinion and to be fair Provorov could have an even worse sophomore slump than Ghost. I just don't think the team would be willing to give up on a blue chip young defenseman like Provorov and trade him until they were sure exactly what his ceiling was.

    Personally I am not so far gone as to think a Provorov/McDavid trade is equal value. I just think with this franchises need for a defensive anchor to build around that he will be valued way above what any other team would be willing to give up for him.
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    Apr. 26, 2017 at 12:49 p.m.
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    So here's a question then. Think back at how you felt about Ghost last year. There was a pretty similar thought for him as Provorov this year...keep in mind Philly isn't my team...BUT I'd dare to say even more! Provorov isn't in the top 7 in Calder consideration on any Calder Memorial tracker (outside of Philly) that I've seen. Ghost had pretty serious consideration to win the whole thing last year!


    That is mostly because Calder voting is skewed towards scoring. Ghost is a much better offensive defensemen than Provorov. Provorov is a much better all around player than Ghost. Even at his best last year nobody thought Ghost was the best defenseman on the team. Just really gifted offensively and an exciting player to watch on a somewhat boring roster. This year almost nobody argues that Provorov is already the best defenseman on the team. (To be fare they did field some real weak Dmen this year so take it with a grain of salt.) And that is as a 19 year old when Ghost was a 22 year old rookie.

    None of this is to put Ghost down but he is what he is. And while not the defensive liability some of the fan base like to label him as he isn't the complete player Provorov is. Ghost is phenomenal at certain aspects of the game while Provorov seems to excel at everything. This is all just my opinion and to be fair Provorov could have an even worse sophomore slump than Ghost. I just don't think the team would be willing to give up on a blue chip young defenseman like Provorov and trade him until they were sure exactly what his ceiling was.

    Personally I am not so far gone as to think a Provorov/McDavid trade is equal value. I just think with this franchises need for a defensive anchor to build around that he will be valued way above what any other team would be willing to give up for him.


    Well put and certainly fair, Thanks for contributing!
     
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