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Dubois or Lafreniere for 2nd overall

Created by: LIRIK
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 25, 2022
Published: Apr. 16, 2022
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If MTL pick is 2nd overall. What would MTL have to add to make it work? Just trying to figure out value. I know both are probably not available.
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    Apr. 17, 2022 at 3:46 a.m.
    #26
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    Quoting: Fotiu4U
    Rangers are not trading Laffy to anyone, so get over it Habs fans.


    We are well over it. You can keep your maybe 20 goal scorer if everything goes well with skating issues
    Apr. 17, 2022 at 3:48 a.m.
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    Leafs fans were happy bringing Tavares home. Sabres fans are happy with homeboy Tuch. Coyotes fans dream of Matthews.


    *The 5 Coyotes fans dream of Matthews
    Apr. 17, 2022 at 7:04 a.m.
    #28
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    What is the Dubois hype? He wouldn't even be a first liner at MTL he'd be our second line center. Why trade a 2nd overall (which will be a center) for a player worst than Suzuki?
    Apr. 17, 2022 at 10:04 a.m.
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    this draft is pretty weak. Cooley is the #2 overall pick who isn't a top 5 pick 8 out of the last 10 drafts.
    Apr. 17, 2022 at 10:04 a.m.
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    Quoting: OlegP
    We are well over it. You can keep your maybe 20 goal scorer if everything goes well with skating issues


    Lol
    Caufield-18 goals 5 pp goals 17 min per game
    Laf - 17 goals 0 PP goals 13 min per game
    Caufield 1 year and 2 months older
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    Apr. 17, 2022 at 10:11 a.m.
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    Oh wow..

    1. You can’t afford PLD. Suzuki is getting a large raise and Price is likely coming back. It’s not as simple as just moving one of the other contracts.

    2. You need 3 years of this years pick in ELC where Laf is getting money next season which you again can’t afford.

    Neither player is actually attainable financially. Your organization needs to draft and develop while letting the contracts within finish or move later(not 6 years of Gally or Josh).
    Apr. 17, 2022 at 12:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: OlegP
    We are well over it. You can keep your maybe 20 goal scorer if everything goes well with skating issues


    Very happy to.
    Apr. 17, 2022 at 1:17 p.m.
    #33
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    I wouldn't one for one. And i think Suzuki and Dubois have about the same value. That's why i asked what MTL would have to add.

    Winnipeg have so many centers, they could draft Nemec or Slafkovsky with the 2nd overall. And whatever MTL have to add. And they'd have Dubois money to bring another UFA.


    Jets dont really have many centres. And the one they might get rid of is Scheifele.
    Apr. 17, 2022 at 1:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: OlegP
    *The 5 Coyotes fans dream of Matthews


    So original.
    Apr. 17, 2022 at 1:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: OlegP
    Boom!

    The Habs window needs to have players grow together like every dynasty. Some players will hold different value based on teams competitive windows. Exactly why players like Hagel hold so much more value to Tampa than say the RANGERS


    Quoting: OlegP
    Their defence structure is so much like the Canucks. Just a mess. They need another 3 years to have Harris-Norlinder-Barron-Guhle-Mailloux-Romanov develop together and let some of these awful deals run out like Savard, Armia, Hoffman


    Quoting: OlegP
    Its the media not the fans. They keep pushing guys like LeTang and Lafreniere in our face so we kind of go with it but few actually want those players with the asking price going the other way. Whether it's assets for Laffy or an enormous overpayment for Tanger


    Everything you said is dead on!
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    Apr. 17, 2022 at 1:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: NYR1983
    Oh wow..

    1. You can’t afford PLD. Suzuki is getting a large raise and Price is likely coming back. It’s not as simple as just moving one of the other contracts.

    2. You need 3 years of this years pick in ELC where Laf is getting money next season which you again can’t afford.

    Neither player is actually attainable financially. Your organization needs to draft and develop while letting the contracts within finish or move later(not 6 years of Gally or Josh).


    Trading Petry this summer will give Mtl the cap space.
    Apr. 17, 2022 at 7:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: LIRIK
    Trading Petry this summer will give Mtl the cap space.


    You say it like there’s teams lined up begging for him..
    Apr. 17, 2022 at 9:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: NYR1983
    You say it like there’s teams lined up begging for him..


    When did i say that? You're delusional. If that's the best you gotta say, please don't comment on my threads anymore...
    Apr. 18, 2022 at 11:57 a.m.
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    Quoting: LIRIK
    When did i say that? You're delusional. If that's the best you gotta say, please don't comment on my threads anymore...


    You said you would have room when you trade Petry this summer… who the F wants him?! I simply told you that you won’t be able to move these guys with bad contracts and you in “delusional” manner responded with we will just move a bad contract.. 😂😂 delusions

    If you don’t want people poking at the holes in your theory then don’t share your wild ideas on here
    Apr. 18, 2022 at 1:11 p.m.
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    For both of these the other team is adding to get the 2nd overall.
    Apr. 19, 2022 at 6:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: bnormie46
    Its gonna cost more than a first, unless it was the first pick for Bedard you arent getting dubois 1 for 1.


    I wouldnt trade Bedard for PLD Bedards betta
    Apr. 21, 2022 at 8:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: AdamFox
    Lol
    Caufield-18 goals 5 pp goals 17 min per game
    Laf - 17 goals 0 PP goals 13 min per game
    Caufield 1 year and 2 months older


    You really dont understand context. To completely ignore 1 and change years of development and a player that was playing no minutes under Doucharme.

    You are picking your own narrative. Simply impossible to convince someone with blinders on like you.

    Caufield is the best rookie since January! Laf has never had any kind of goal scoring streak. He's a middling player.
    Apr. 21, 2022 at 9:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: NYR1983
    You say it like there’s teams lined up begging for him..


    There are. He's a top4 RD. The most coveted position in hockey. He will easily get moved for assets
    Apr. 22, 2022 at 8:04 a.m.
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    Quoting: OlegP
    There are. He's a top4 RD. The most coveted position in hockey. He will easily get moved for assets


    Hahaha he is but who needs to add one and has cap space? And does he fit a teams window of competition. Signing Chiarot or another guy on the off-season is easier. But we will see. I personally don’t see a lot of teams being in on Petry
    Apr. 28, 2022 at 8:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: NYR1983
    Hahaha he is but who needs to add one and has cap space? And does he fit a teams window of competition. Signing Chiarot or another guy on the off-season is easier. But we will see. I personally don’t see a lot of teams being in on Petry


    Its the offseason. Teams trade for Duncan keith's cap hit which is the same as Petry. Petry is actually a good player unlike Keith. If you think out of every single team in the NHL that one team wont overpay then youve been asleep every offseason
     
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