I don't think the proposal is obscene, but Dickinson is unlike to garner that return thanks to the disparity between his contract and his offense. Defense-only forwards like him have some value, but I don't think 2.6mil is in-line with his defensive value. However, more relevant to EDM's situation, they already have cap difficulties so they can't gonna pay a 4th line guy 2.6mil. Maybe if it was a straight swap of Dickinson for Kassian (retaining 550k to even cap hits), but otherwise, gonna be a "no".

Detroit declines.

Boeser has a qualifying offer of 7.5 million, he's not getting qualified. We can sign him for free as an UFA.

Dickinson has very good hockey IQ if you watch him play, and the best defensive forwards do actually get 2+ million on the open market

No you can't and no you won't, because Vancouver will negotiate a contract with Boeser at a lower number before that ever happens. Keep dreaming

Exactly this... it's one of the worst kept secrets in the NHL that Vancouver isn't qualifying Boeser. Either Vancouver will negotiate a lower contract and keep him anyways, or he's going to UFA and then anyone who might want him, can sign him for free. No one is trading for him.

Think Detroit and Boeser would figure something out before a deal gets finalized and if we let Boeser hit the ufa market somebody probably gonna offer more than us

Lolol where do people get this stuff? VAN will NOT lose Boeser for nothing. VAN would rather just take the QO if he wont negotiate a longer term deal at a lower cap hit. VAN can take him to Arb too and Brock and everyone else knows he wont get his 7.5m. This is a ridiculous take

Rangers PASS. Schneider is not available for trade and way too much for 1 year of JT. Trade him elsewhere.

I literally just said that they could negotiate a lower deal and he would stay in that case. I don't think they'll let him walk either, but there's no way they're signing that QO and no team is trading for him, with the QO looming and/or risking losing him for nothing either.

Why wouldn't a team trade for him? He would be under team control for 2 more years, no way he becomes a UFA this year. Why wouldn't VAN take the QO if all else fails. VAN will not lose him for nothing.

Because he's not worth 7.5m a year. He's a fine player, but he's realistically a 6m a year player and if a team trades for him, then they're on the hook for the QO. The Canucks COULD take him to arbitration and THEN trade him, but until that contract is sorted out, no one is trading for him. No other team is risking being on the hook for 7.5m OR losing him for nothing and no other team is taking on the headache and bad blood of taking him to arbitration themselves.

The best case scenario for Vancouver is reaching a contract before it gets to that point, but qualifying Boeser at 7.5m would be poor cap management.

7.5m for one year isn't the issue you think it is. VAn paying him 1.5 ish more than he is worth for a year isnt ideal but its preferred to losing him for nothing. Brock knows he isnt worth his QO either so why would he continue to take the QOs until UFA when he will end up with market value. Its in his best interest too to sign a long term deal. I love Brock but he is streaky as fcuk and it would behoove him to lock up bigger money with longer term than continue on 1 year deals. I don't know where this "worst kept secret" came from though

It's been floated all over that they are unlikely to qualify him on NHL Network, SportsNet, The Athletic, etc... I don't see how they can afford to with Miller needing an extension as well and the Hughes and Petterson deals in place...

I mean its definitely doable. Though I think extending Miller is the wrong play for VAN in their current state. If there wasnt already an OEL contract then maybe but you cant have 2

They'd realistically need to shed some serious cap elsewhere to make that happen... No one is taking that OEL or Myers contract off your books for free either...

Myers I think is moveable actually. Its a myth that he is a bottom pairing level Dman despite what you may read on this site. He is overpaid, probably by about 1.5m, but he is a legit Top 4 dman and is playing heavy and tough minutes. If VAN retain a mill or so I think there is an return that the acquiring team would need to pay. If Myers were paid at 4.5m I don't tthink VAN would have any interest in even moving him.

I had Myers being moved to Buffalo making 3.6 mil which is 40% retained. Buffalo could flip him, retain 50% and a team can get myers at 1.8 mil which would probably be worth a 3rd at least. The canucks can also do a 3 team trade through a rebuilder as well

Like Im saying. Retaining that much on Myers shoudl warrant at least a 3rd coming back. If Myers were making 3.6 for 2 more years and continues to play he has then he is worth a 1st (2nd for sure). I know I will take heat for that but Ive watched every game he has played over the past 3 years, he is a legit Top 4 dman and those are worth something (ie. Manson, Kulak, Giordano, Hamonic, Lindholm, etc.) Not to say that all those names I just mentioned are the same level of player but if Hamonic gets you a 3rd, then Myers gets you a 1st. If Lindholm gets you a player, prospect, 1st and 2 2nds, then Myers gets you a 1st. Then you take contract into account and it alters the value. Myers at 6 is kind of a wash maybe you pick up a late pick. Myers at 3.6 gets you a second at least.

Don't know about a first but if Ben Chiarot got a 1st and a prospect anything is possible

Somebody is gonna offer that amount I chose the rangers because of all the rumours. I could see the Rangers making a big move like that if they have a deep playoff run

A team with the cap room to sign him to a new deal will offer a lot for him, but that's not the Rangers.