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Hire DeBoer And Trade Nylander

Created by: SudburyWolves
Initial Creation Date: May 16, 2022
Published: May 16, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
DeBoer is a hell of a coach.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Grundström, Carl3$950,000
Vilardi, Gabriel4$2,250,000
Liljegren, Timothy4$2,000,000
Sandin, Rasmus5$2,000,000
Kase, Ondrej2$1,650,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Giordano, Mark1$3,650,000
Spezza, Jason1$750,000
Motte, Tyler3$1,550,000
Jones, Martin1$950,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Vilardi, Gabriel [RFA Rights]
  2. Grundström, Carl [RFA Rights]
  3. 2022 1st round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Nylander, William
2.
TOR
  1. Lehner, Robin
VGK
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Engvall, Pierre [RFA Rights]
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. 2022 4th round pick (ARI)
WPG
  1. Holl, Justin
Buyouts
  • Petr Mrázek: $1,033,333
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,023,250$212,500$0$1,476,750
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Robertson, Nicholas
$796,667
LW
RFA - 2
Vilardi, Gabriel
$2,250,000
C
RFA
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Motte, Tyler
$1,550,000
LW, RW
UFA
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Kase, Ondrej
$1,650,000
RW
RFA
Grundström, Carl
$950,000
LW
RFA
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Abruzzese, Nick
$850,000
C
RFA - 1
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Spezza, Jason
$750,000
C, RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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Liljegren, Timothy
$2,000,000
RD
RFA
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Lehner, Robin
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
Jones, Martin
$950,000
G
UFA
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Giordano, Mark
$3,650,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Sandin, Rasmus
$2,000,000
LD/RD
RFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Källgren, Erik
$750,000
G
RFA - 1
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Clifford, Kyle
$762,500
LW
UFA - 2
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Dahlström, Carl
$750,000
LD
UFA - 1

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May 16 at 7:12 p.m.
#1
Just Keep Swimming
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The list of leafs players (not named Matthews or Marner) who have been more productive than nylander since 2000 are:
Kessel 11/12
Tavares 18/19

Let's stop trading the elite winger for scraps yeah?
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May 16 at 7:21 p.m.
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You want DeBoer? Good luck with that...
May 16 at 7:22 p.m.
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Please hire DeBoer. Can’t wait to see him ask his players to play through injury due to cap constraints 😂😂😂
May 16 at 7:22 p.m.
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DeBoer and Lehner had that whole passive aggressive thing this year and you want to bring them both to a pressure cooker market where every word and decision is endlessly scrutinized?

DeBoer is not a good coach if you're chasing long term success. He wears out his welcome after the first year or two everywhere he goes, and the team sinks afterwards. I don't think he was necessarily the problem in Vegas, but I'm not sure he's a palpable upgrade on Keefe.
May 16 at 7:37 p.m.
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Deboer is a win next year move. he pisses off his players quickly so his shelf life is less than 3 seasons.
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May 16 at 8:31 p.m.
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Hire Dusty Imoo
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have you not seen how deboer coached the devils, sharks and vegas??? He is stubborn with his tactics. Toronto would be foolish to hire him
May 16 at 8:48 p.m.
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Have at it but I don’t think Robin would want to follow lol
May 16 at 9:04 p.m.
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
DeBoer and Lehner had that whole passive aggressive thing this year and you want to bring them both to a pressure cooker market where every word and decision is endlessly scrutinized?

DeBoer is not a good coach if you're chasing long term success. He wears out his welcome after the first year or two everywhere he goes, and the team sinks afterwards. I don't think he was necessarily the problem in Vegas, but I'm not sure he's a palpable upgrade on Keefe.


Keefe is not a head coach. Deboer holds his players accountable to the system and to their structure. That is what the good coaches do, guys like Cooper and Trotz do it too. The coaches who play the hands off style of coaching do not win cups.
May 16 at 9:06 p.m.
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have you not seen how deboer coached the devils, sharks and vegas??? He is stubborn with his tactics. Toronto would be foolish to hire him


He took the Devils and the Sharks to cup finals. Being stubborn with your tactics is what a head coach should be. Keefe is not a head coach, he’s a hands off let the stars play pond hockey coach. Those guys don’t win cups.
May 16 at 9:08 p.m.
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Hire Dusty Imoo
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Quoting: SudburyWolves
He took the Devils and the Sharks to cup finals. Being stubborn with your tactics is what a head coach should be. Keefe is not a head coach, he’s a hands off let the stars play pond hockey coach. Those guys don’t win cups.


no being stubborn results in losing out to inferior teams like dallas and montreal. deboer never adjusted to montreals counter attack the whole series last season. being stubborn gets you no championship
May 16 at 11:10 p.m.
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Quoting: McSchleep
no being stubborn results in losing out to inferior teams like dallas and montreal. deboer never adjusted to montreals counter attack the whole series last season. being stubborn gets you no championship


We certainly haven’t lost to an inferior team like Montreal before.
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May 16 at 11:11 p.m.
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Hire Dusty Imoo
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Quoting: SudburyWolves
We certainly haven’t lost to an inferior team like Montreal before.


no i dont recall it
May 17 at 3:44 p.m.
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Good Opinion Haver
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Quoting: SudburyWolves
Keefe is not a head coach. Deboer holds his players accountable to the system and to their structure. That is what the good coaches do, guys like Cooper and Trotz do it too. The coaches who play the hands off style of coaching do not win cups.


Look I don't entirely disagree with you on Keefe all I'm saying is I'm not sure DeBoer is the magic bullet in the "accountability" department that you seem to think he is and I can tell you for sure that in the unlikely event that both DeBoer and Lehner end up on the same team again there will be significant dysfunction given what transpired this past season
May 17 at 4:29 p.m.
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
Look I don't entirely disagree with you on Keefe all I'm saying is I'm not sure DeBoer is the magic bullet in the "accountability" department that you seem to think he is and I can tell you for sure that in the unlikely event that both DeBoer and Lehner end up on the same team again there will be significant dysfunction given what transpired this past season


I’d rather have Deboer than Lehner
 
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