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A lot of your issues here are valid….except for the lindholm one. Very happy with that trade.

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Jun. 6, 2022 at 9:33 p.m.

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A lot of your issues here are valid….except for the lindholm one. Very happy with that trade.

I like Lindholm. He fits well on the team. But they were pretty much destined to lose in the 1st rd no matter what. They should have waited to sign him in the off-season. It's important to remember Sweeney paid an extra 2nd to get Lindholm with retention so he could add scoring depth at the deadline. He didn't add more and got beat by CAR. Then NYR, who did add scoring depth, beat CAR in the next round.

Jun. 6, 2022 at 9:39 p.m.

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I like Lindholm. He fits well on the team. But they were pretty much destined to lose in the 1st rd no matter what. They should have waited to sign him in the off-season. It's important to remember Sweeney paid an extra 2nd to get Lindholm with retention so he could add scoring depth at the deadline. He didn't add more and got beat by CAR. Then NYR, who did add scoring depth, beat CAR in the next round.

Destined to lose? What are you talking about. They played a kind of weird series against a very good team and lost by one goal in game 7. Thats a ludicrously bad take.

As is, “just sign him in the off-season.” You mean when every team can bid for him, up his price, and risk losing out on the player? They got 9 years of a very high end number 2 d man at a reasonable number. Good move.

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Jun. 6, 2022 at 9:59 p.m.

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The Kase/Backes trade was a good trade and Vladar for a 3rd is fine. Going with two rookies in a year you want to win is risky. Sweeney and Neely should both go, not just the GM. Also, they don't really seem interested by a rebuild so I'm not sure which direction they're heading into (if there's one).

Jun. 6, 2022 at 10:05 p.m.

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Destined to lose? What are you talking about. They played a kind of weird series against a very good team and lost by one goal in game 7. Thats a ludicrously bad take.

As is, “just sign him in the off-season.” You mean when every team can bid for him, up his price, and risk losing out on the player? They got 9 years of a very high end number 2 d man at a reasonable number. Good move.

I think they needed the picks more than Lindholm at the deadline. UFA would drive up the price, but I don't see how he would have signed for anything more than $7M or $7.5M. $500k or $1M isn't worth those picks, and the final 3 years are likely going to look pretty bad once he declines.

Jun. 6, 2022 at 10:05 p.m.

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The Kase/Backes trade was a good trade and Vladar for a 3rd is fine. Going with two rookies in a year you want to win is risky. Sweeney and Neely should both go, not just the GM. Also, they don't really seem interested by a rebuild so I'm not sure which direction they're heading into (if there's one).

Idk how you say the Kase trade was good. Vladar and Swayman would have been just fine in net.

Jun. 6, 2022 at 10:13 p.m.

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I think they needed the picks more than Lindholm at the deadline. UFA would drive up the price, but I don't see how he would have signed for anything more than $7M or $7.5M. $500k or $1M isn't worth those picks, and the final 3 years are likely going to look pretty bad once he declines.

What if he just went elsewhere? And again, the argument that they were destined to lose in round 1 is just silly. They picked up a guy they desperately needed for what was potentially bergeron’s last year, and got him long term as well. Really good move. Fleeced is almost as absurd a term as destined.

Jun. 6, 2022 at 10:15 p.m.

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Idk how you say the Kase trade was good. Vladar and Swayman would have been just fine in net.

Are you still thinking about vladars first couple weeks in calgary when he was hot? He was horrible in 2022. Practically unplayable. Taht move was fine too.

Jun. 6, 2022 at 10:54 p.m.

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What if he just went elsewhere? And again, the argument that they were destined to lose in round 1 is just silly. They picked up a guy they desperately needed for what was potentially bergeron’s last year, and got him long term as well. Really good move. Fleeced is almost as absurd a term as destined.

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Are you still thinking about vladars first couple weeks in calgary when he was hot? He was horrible in 2022. Practically unplayable. Taht move was fine too.

If he signed elsewhere, oh well. If Bergeron is done the team needs to retool/rebuild so Lindholm wouldn't really be sought after as much. I say destined because I pegged them as 1st rd losers after Krejci left and after they looked horrible the first couple months of the season. I never thought getting Lindholm moved the needle. And it was a fleece. Sweeney got the player with retention when he had the cap space to take on his full hit.

And yeah Vladar was very bad after his hot start. But long-term I liked having Swayman and Vladar as the cheapest goalie tandem in the league more than spending $5M/yr on a platoon/backup goalie

Jun. 6, 2022 at 10:57 p.m.

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If he signed elsewhere, oh well. If Bergeron is done the team needs to retool/rebuild so Lindholm wouldn't really be sought after as much. I say destined because I pegged them as 1st rd losers after Krejci left and after they looked horrible the first couple months of the season. I never thought getting Lindholm moved the needle. And it was a fleece. Sweeney got the player with retention when he had the cap space to take on his full hit.

And yeah Vladar was very bad after his hot start. But long-term I liked having Swayman and Vladar as the cheapest goalie tandem in the league more than spending $5M/yr on a platoon/backup goalie

So are you jsut one of those Debbie downers thats determined to see the worst in everything? I think Sweeney has been horrible, but the lindholm/vladar/doomed takes are impossibly dumb.

Jun. 6, 2022 at 11:45 p.m.

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So are you jsut one of those Debbie downers thats determined to see the worst in everything? I think Sweeney has been horrible, but the lindholm/vladar/doomed takes are impossibly dumb.

No. Realistic. The Lindholm trade was stupid. It didn't make them better than CAR, TOR, or TB. They really had no business being in that series, Carolina just had a historically albatross road playoff run. If Andersen was healthy they would have likely been knocked out in 5.
Now, they enter a potential rebuild and don't have their 1st this year, or two 2nds in the following drafts. But hey they fixed the area of the team that wasn't broken at the trade deadline for Bergeron's last ride. What a trade!

Jun. 6, 2022 at 11:47 p.m.

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No. Realistic. The Lindholm trade was stupid. It didn't make them better than CAR, TOR, or TB. They really had no business being in that series, Carolina just had a historically albatross road playoff run. If Andersen was healthy they would have likely been knocked out in 5.
Now, they enter a potential rebuild and don't have their 1st this year, or two 2nds in the following drafts. But hey they fixed the area of the team that wasn't broken at the trade deadline for Bergeron's last ride. What a trade!

So you answered my first question: yes. Debbie downer. I guess i could have figured that out earlier with that, “ohhh i predicted they were a goner in the first round before the season, look at how special i am,” routine.

Try to enjoy things.

Jun. 6, 2022 at 11:52 p.m.

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So you answered my first question: yes. Debbie downer. I guess i could have figured that out earlier with that, “ohhh i predicted they were a goner in the first round before the season, look at how special i am,” routine.

Try to enjoy things.

Well, I was right. And I don't gloat about it. I hope the Bruins go on a run every year. Last season they should have but couldn't get past the Islanders.. which makes me want to puke.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 12:17 a.m.

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Well, I was right. And I don't gloat about it. I hope the Bruins go on a run every year. Last season they should have but couldn't get past the Islanders.. which makes me want to puke.

Except for that time that you gloated about it.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 1:18 a.m.

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Except for that time that you gloated about it.

You're just making things up. You have a clouded sense of debate, including childish name-calling like "debbie-downer" and thinking every thought you don't agree with must be "dumb," "absurd," or "ludicrous."

Jun. 7, 2022 at 7:32 a.m.

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You're just making things up. You have a clouded sense of debate, including childish name-calling like "debbie-downer" and thinking every thought you don't agree with must be "dumb," "absurd," or "ludicrous."

Oh no. Not every thought. Just the ones that overtly dumb, absurd, or ludicrous. Like the notion that Sweeney got “fleeced,” in the lindholm deal, or that the bruins were, “destined,” to lose in the first round. Those were all three!

I think Don Sweeney if one of the worst GMs the league has ever seen, but if you’re saying stuff like that, you’re just looking for reasons to be miserable.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 8:17 a.m.

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Idk how you say the Kase trade was good. Vladar and Swayman would have been just fine in net.

How? Vladar had barely played in the NHL and Swayman played one shortened pro season. The Kase trade was good because Bruins got rid of Backes' contract which cleared $$ for a player like Craig Smith the next season and the Bruins got a good middle-6 F. For a late 1st and B prospect/projected 3rd pair D, that's a pretty good. 24yo and at a good price (2x$2.6M), Kase would have helped add secondary scoring. Even with his injury history, you take a chance on a good player like him. Unfortunately, a pandemic happened and he got injured last year. It was a good trade when it was made (and one of the best in Sweeney's tenure) with a not so good outcome because of things we can't control.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 10:09 a.m.

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Oh no. Not every thought. Just the ones that overtly dumb, absurd, or ludicrous. Like the notion that Sweeney got “fleeced,” in the lindholm deal, or that the bruins were, “destined,” to lose in the first round. Those were all three!

I think Don Sweeney if one of the worst GMs the league has ever seen, but if you’re saying stuff like that, you’re just looking for reasons to be miserable.

He got fleeced. You're blind if you think otherwise.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 10:12 a.m.

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How? Vladar had barely played in the NHL and Swayman played one shortened pro season. The Kase trade was good because Bruins got rid of Backes' contract which cleared $$ for a player like Craig Smith the next season and the Bruins got a good middle-6 F. For a late 1st and B prospect/projected 3rd pair D, that's a pretty good. 24yo and at a good price (2x$2.6M), Kase would have helped add secondary scoring. Even with his injury history, you take a chance on a good player like him. Unfortunately, a pandemic happened and he got injured last year. It was a good trade when it was made (and one of the best in Sweeney's tenure) with a not so good outcome because of things we can't control.

He traded the 1st to unload the poor Backes contract he signed in the first place. Kase didn't score a goal for the Bruins.
I get it's risky going with two young goalies, I'm saying I would rather have Swayman and Vladar than Swayman and Ullmark at $5M.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 10:23 a.m.

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He traded the 1st to unload the poor Backes contract he signed in the first place. Kase didn't score a goal for the Bruins.
I get it's risky going with two young goalies, I'm saying I would rather have Swayman and Vladar than Swayman and Ullmark at $5M.

Yes, but Backes' contract was another thing. We're talking about the trade. Again, "Kase didn't score a goal for the Bruins", the season was paused and he got injured in 2020-21, you can't control that. Kase is a good 2nd/3rd liner when healthy as he has shown this year.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 11:34 a.m.

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He got fleeced. You're blind if you think otherwise.

Nope. Just a functioning brain. Try to enjoy the nhl, I have no use for someone or your mentality. Peace

Jun. 7, 2022 at 12:41 p.m.

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Nope. Just a functioning brain. Try to enjoy the nhl, I have no use for someone or your mentality. Peace

I'll disagree with you on the functioning brain part, but agree with the I don't have a use for someone like you aspect.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 12:43 p.m.

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Yes, but Backes' contract was another thing. We're talking about the trade. Again, "Kase didn't score a goal for the Bruins", the season was paused and he got injured in 2020-21, you can't control that. Kase is a good 2nd/3rd liner when healthy as he has shown this year.

The trade didn't pan out. Kase had/has a history of injuries. The controllable part is not trading for him.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 12:51 p.m.

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The trade didn't pan out. Kase had/has a history of injuries. The controllable part is not trading for him.

The Bruins cleared $3.4M in cap space which they were able to use to improve the team. Kase had an injury history but he could have stayed healthy (50 games this season). There's a risk but the reward was higher. Unfortunately, it did not work out (and 2019-20 was because of the pandemic, not injury).

Call out a bad move all the way you want but at least pick an actual bad one.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 1:04 p.m.

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