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Middle 6 forward, An A- prospect, and a 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Doubt he even fetches that big a package.

Sadin is a LHD which isnt a need for us, Kerfoot is fine, a late 1st and 2nd due to retition, think this offer gets beaten by many other teams

Possible it gets bid up but the framework is there.

Seen some canucks fans make the LHD point. No GMs think this way. Sandin is immediately a top 4 D for you and is a long term solution behind Hughes. Sure for one season you may have an awkward fit with someone playing their offside but he's a building block for any defence corps for the future. Don't see him having less value in a trade simply because he shoots left.

I don’t see where Sandin slots in behind Hughes. We have OEL, Rathbone, and Dermott on the left side. Switch Sandin to Liligren and it makes more sense

This is more than the Senators got for Karlsson or Stone. And it comes without an extension. It's a ridiculous amount to give up for JT Miller. This site sometimes....

Except Sandin does play red too.

Refer to my previous comment. Sandin >>> Dermott, rathbone. In 2 years he's a far superior D to an aging OEL as well.

Just because you have 1 stud and 3 mediocre LD doesnt make your GM unwilling to upgrade on the position

Just because you have very little knowledge about the Canucks, doesn’t justify why the Canucks would want Sandin. OEL is a very solid shutdown D now. His contract isn’t ideal but we are stuck with him so he isn’t moving. Rathbone is an elite prospect, with higher offensive ceiling than Sandin. Dermott, sure Sandin beats, but Rathbone will be in the lineup next season and will leave no room for Sandin. If he’s so good, just keep him and give us Liligren, then both sides can be happy

It’s really not, I see many Canuck fans saying Miller (1.5M) for Marino, Kap, a 1st and 3rd is fair. Why? Well in that trade the Canucks actually get what they need, a good young RHD

Copp got a 1st/2nd/5th and a prospect/young roster player, Hagel 2 prospects/young roster players and 2 1sts. That was at the last TDL. Miller is far far better than either of those pieces. What he returns in a trade will entirely depend on the number of teams interested in him (and that will be more than a few). An expiring contract in Kerfoot and a LD are not exactly what they need in assets, so while the value might be OK, the actual pieces are not. Knies, a young RD prospect/roster player and picks will be what it takes for Vancouver to make this deal. Given that Toronto is DESPERATE to get out of the first round and actually have a run while this core is in place, don't be surprised if they take a stab at something like this.

Toronto is absolutely not desperate and no team will be paying that price for JT Miller. Just keep him if he's so valuable and he'll walk as a UFA in a year while Vancouver misses the playoffs again.

Not my call LOL. Rutherford will do what he deems best and if he trades JT will get commensurate value for him. As for Toronto, just how many first round exits have to happen before they get "desperate"?

HAHAHAH Rathbone take is simply absurd

I really hope the canucks trade Miller just to see how salty all you simply delusional canucks fans will be at the actual realistic return

Rutherford's idea of commensurate value for Kapanen was the 15th overall pick lol. I don't think you should be excited about his idea of commensurate value

Rutherford stated he wants 4 pieces for Miller. Probably gets 3 good ones. Kapanen???? That only cements the fact that when you are BUYING, you have to pay the prices.

What you want and what you get often diverge in the trade market, wouldn't take the magic number of 4 assets as gospel. He will try to get the best value possible, as any GM does - could be 3 pieces could be 4.

I think more than anything the Kapanen deal cemented Rutherford has a fairly spotty track record valuing assets & trading (and drafting for that matter). He's no doubt past his best before date.

Regardless, Its a fair proposal for Miller and may or may not be enough to get it done.

Good thing Ruthford isn’t our GM. Patrik Allvin is

Well actually he is a superior of your GM but I was aware of that. Refer to your fellow canucks fan above who seems to think JR is your GM

Miller had a better year than Stone, when stone was traded, comparing this to the Karlsson trade is ridiculous, Ottawa got a much better return than this

Except Sandin isn't good at playing RHD, which is his off wing

There aren't any Canucks fans under the impression that Rutherford is the actual GM, don't know what it is you're getting at

Referring to this

Rutherford is NOT the GM, but don't think for a minute he isn't part of the process.