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Created by: Upper_Body_Injury

Team: 2022-23 New Jersey Devils

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 23, 2022

Published: Jun. 23, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

NJD

Boucher, Tyler
2022 1st round pick (OTT)

OTT

Bratt, Jesper [RFA Rights]

NJD

Turcotte, Alex
2022 1st round pick (LAK)
2023 2nd round pick (LAK)

LAK

Bratt, Jesper

NJD

Wahlstrom, Oliver
2022 1st round pick (NYI)
2023 3rd round pick (NYI)

NYI

Bratt, Jesper

NJD

Laaksonen, Oskari
Nadeau, Olivier
2022 1st round pick (BUF)

BUF

Bratt, Jesper

Buyouts

Cory Schneider: $2,000,000

Recapture Fees

Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$82,500,000	$61,626,667	$0	$2,887,500	$20,873,333

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tatar, Tomas $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Hughes, Jack $8,000,000$8,000,000 C UFA - 8	Bastian, Nathan $825,000$825,000 RW UFA - 1
Johnsson, Andreas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Hischier, Nico $7,250,000$7,250,000 C UFA - 5	Boucher, Tyler $894,167$894,167 RW RFA - 4
Sharangovich, Yegor $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	McLeod, Michael $975,000$975,000 C RFA - 1	Wahlstrom, Oliver $894,167$894,167 ($537,500$538K) RW RFA - 1
Kuokkanen, Janne $1,825,000$1,825,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Mercer, Dawson $894,167$894,167 ($400,000$400K) RW, C RFA - 2	Turcotte, Alex $894,167$894,167 ($1,550,000$2M) C RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Graves, Ryan $3,166,667$3,166,667 LD UFA - 1	Hamilton, Dougie $9,000,000$9,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 6	Blackwood, Mackenzie $2,800,000$2,800,000 G UFA - 1
Siegenthaler, Jonas $1,125,000$1,125,000 LD UFA - 1	Severson, Damon $4,166,666$4,166,666 RD UFA - 1
Smith, Ty $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) LD/RD RFA - 1	Laaksonen, Oskari $853,333$853,333 RD UFA - 1
Walsh, Reilly $925,000$925,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Bernier, Jonathan $4,125,000$4,125,000 G UFA - 1

Jun. 23, 2022 at 11:37 a.m.

#26

sensonfire

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Quoting: JackHughesELITE

Just because he was taken 10th last year doesn't make his value a top 10 pick. My goodness. His value surely hasn’t stayed as a top 10 pick after the awful season he had this year. The reality is your GM made an awful reach of a pick and he’s nowhere near top 10 pick value. That’s the reality.

I didn't like the pick either.

But we still took him 10th overall.

Like everybody else here, you're also overlooking the fact that Ottawa is giving up the #7 pick as well.

Jun. 23, 2022 at 11:38 a.m.

#27

Tbrew

Joined: Apr. 2022

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Quoting: Sabres923

Unsigned RFA’s don’t have a lot of value.

all signs from the team and Bratt’s agent point to a long term deal, there is no sign of strain between Bratt and the Devils, and NJ has the car to qualify and match and Offer Sheet.

And that’s without pointing out he had some of the best underlyings in the league last year along with a 70 point season.

Jun. 23, 2022 at 11:38 a.m.

#28

sensonfire

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Quoting: Db1899

Bratt is younger and better than Fiala. Whoever is picked at 7 will likely never be as good as bratt

debatable

Jun. 23, 2022 at 11:47 a.m.

#29

JackHughesELITE

Joined: Apr. 2022

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Quoting: sensonfire

I didn't like the pick either.

But we still took him 10th overall.

Like everybody else here, you're also overlooking the fact that Ottawa is giving up the #7 pick as well.

Because I’ve been too pre-occupied going back and forth with you on Boucher’s value. And just because you took him 10th overall doesn’t make him have that value. If I took
Davis Burnside in the 1st round this year that doesn’t make him have a 1st round value in a trade around the league.

Jun. 23, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.

#30

Upper_Body_Injury

Thread Starter

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I would be interested in seeing what LA or Buffalo fans think of these trades seem like NJD fans not a fan of trading Bratt and Sens fans think its too much for him Islander fans think its too much as well how about we swap out Wahlstrom for Raty? Any trade involving Bratt would come with an extension in place.

Jun. 23, 2022 at 11:51 a.m.

#31

Upper_Body_Injury

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Quoting: JackHughesELITE

this is true look at the Wild when they took Filp Johansson in the first round and they never signed him....his value is crap even though he was drafted in the first round...

Jun. 23, 2022 at 11:53 a.m.

#32

sensonfire

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Quoting: JackHughesELITE

If you draft someone in the Top 10, you don't just give up on him when it hasn't even been a year since the draft.

Jun. 23, 2022 at 11:54 a.m.

#33

sensonfire

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Quoting: FentonsSoilders

this is true look at the Wild when they took Filp Johansson in the first round and they never signed him....his value is crap even though he was drafted in the first round...

Johansson was a 1st round pick from 4 years ago.

Boucher was a 1st round pick from last year.

There's a difference.

Jun. 23, 2022 at 1:22 p.m.

#34

Enrique

Iglesias

Joined: Dec. 2021

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That Kings deal can maybe be a start for talks. Maybe add Zacha and Kings add another piece like Walker, Andersson or Lemieux.
Or Kings add Petersen and NJ adds Blackwood…
Idk but these teams can help each other.

Jun. 23, 2022 at 1:52 p.m.

#35

Xspyrit

Joined: Jul. 2016

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Quoting: sensonfire

Bratt is not worth 2 top ten picks.

Try again.

Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55

Bratt isn't netting a top ten pick plus, let alone a top ten pick.

I would personally do it.

I want to be more competitive NOW (actually we SHOULD have been since 2020-21, but DOHrion)

I see Boucher as a late first round pick value though so I wouldn't mind paying this for Bratt, he's very dynamic and plays 2-way hockey

Jun. 23, 2022 at 2:07 p.m.

#36

Xspyrit

Joined: Jul. 2016

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Quoting: Db1899

Boucher should have been a 4th rd pick

Don't have to be hyperbolic to "prove a point"

Tyler Boucher was ranked 29th OA on Bob McKenzie's list, the list that matters. His value went down since the draft but 1st round keep value until further down the road...

The 2021 draft was on July 23rd... relax a bit, and I say this as probably the biggest Dorion & Boucher pick critic

Quoting: Db1899

Ridley Greig

It becomes an easy no then. It's not that the values would be way off but I wouldn't give up a piece like Greig on top of the 7th OA pick

7th OA + Lassi Thomson + Filip Gustavsson is my proposal

Quoting: AndrewLadd

Don’t be ridiculous, that’s like saying Nail Yakupov still has value because he was a first overall pick.

Ridiculous argument. Yakupov was drafted 10 years ago. Boucher, not even 1 year ago.

Quoting: Db1899

He has less than a 50% chance of making the NHL. Take what you can get for him.

Bad asset managers do exactly like that.

Jun. 23, 2022 at 4:57 p.m.

#37

Isles10

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Why is the Buffalo trade worth way lesser value than the other ones?

Jun. 23, 2022 at 5:59 p.m.

#38

Upper_Body_Injury

Thread Starter

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Quoting: Isles10

Why is the Buffalo trade worth way lesser value than the other ones?

not sure, what should it be? Throw in Rosen or Portillo?

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