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Created by: mvp13

Team: 2022-23 Calgary Flames

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 25, 2022

Published: Jul. 25, 2022

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After acquiring Bjorkstrand and signing Burakovsky, SEA has an absolute influx of wingers. However, they are pretty light on the backend with departures from Giordano, etc. With Weegar, CGY seems to be heavy on the backend. Could a trade work here?

I know SEA just signed McCann, but they probably weren't expecting these wingers to just fall in their lap the way they did. I picked McCann for his ability to also play center (where SEA is now relatively strong at with Beniers, Wright, Wennberg, Gourde, etc), if CGY will need a 2C in Monahan's likely/probable/potential absence. Also, just feeding into the stuff, this trade is an American for a Canadian, so... plus! It's a long term signing for CGY, to give some much needed relief there.

SEA defense pairings will now be Dunn-Larrson, Hanifin-Oleksiak, Soucy-Schultz which is a pretty strong dcorps, I believe. This move also opens up for Tanev to return to the top 9, where he really seemed to thrive in SEA last season, instead of being relegated to the 4th line.

Long term, CGY has 15 contracts signed with 27mil in space, which should be plenty for Huberdeau (9-10mil), Weegar (6mil), the remaining bottom pieces, and figuring out the 2C position (10-11mil for those).

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Mangiapane, Andrew	5	$5,000,000
Kylington, Oliver	2	$3,000,000
Ruzicka, Adam	1	$800,000

Trades

CGY

McCann, Jared

SEA

Hanifin, Noah

Additional Details:

I feel like this is fairly even at 1 for 1, but perhaps Calgary adds a pick or prospect.

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$76,455,833	$0	$232,500	$6,044,167

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Huberdeau, Jonathan $5,900,000$5,900,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Lindholm, Elias $4,850,000$4,850,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Mangiapane, Andrew $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
Dubé, Dillon $2,300,000$2,300,000 LW, RW, C RFA - 2	McCann, Jared $5,000,000$5,000,000 C, LW UFA - 5	Toffoli, Tyler $2,125,000$2,125,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Lucic, Milan $5,250,000$5,250,000 LW, RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Backlund, Mikael $5,350,000$5,350,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Coleman, Blake $4,900,000$4,900,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 5
Rooney, Kevin $1,300,000$1,300,000 C UFA - 2	Ruzicka, Adam $800,000$800,000 LW, C UFA - 2	Lewis, Trevor $800,000$800,000 ($200,000$200K) RW, C UFA - 1
		Schwindt, Cole $855,833$855,833 ($32,500$32K) RW, C RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Weegar, MacKenzie $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Andersson, Rasmus $4,550,000$4,550,000 RD UFA - 4	Markström, Jacob $6,000,000$6,000,000 G NMC UFA - 4
Kylington, Oliver $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Tanev, Christopher $1,125,000$1,125,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Vladar, Daniel $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
	Zadorov, Nikita $3,750,000$3,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 2
Välimäki, Juuso $1,550,000$1,550,000 LD RFA - 1	DeSimone, Nick $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 2
Mackey, Connor $912,500$912,500 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Monahan, Sean $6,375,000$6,375,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1

Jul. 25, 2022 at 1:45 p.m.

aklavall

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That's straight up terrible for Calgary

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Jul. 25, 2022 at 1:46 p.m.

mvp13

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Quoting: aklavall

That's straight up terrible for Calgary

I know man, it's better to have Backlund as the 2C and be light on wingers, while having 4million dollar defensemen on the bottom pairing

Jul. 25, 2022 at 1:47 p.m.

dougbailey

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this is not 1 for 1

Hannifin is a top pairing defenseman on most teams. McCann was left exposed in the expansion draft and was given top line minutes last season.

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Jul. 25, 2022 at 1:49 p.m.

aklavall

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Quoting: mvp13

while having 4million dollar defensemen on the bottom pairing

Hanifin is on our top pairing.....

Jul. 25, 2022 at 1:51 p.m.

mvp13

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Quoting: aklavall

Hanifin is on our top pairing.....

Obviously, but if he's there it pushes the others down. Weegar is a long term replacement in this scenario

Jul. 25, 2022 at 1:52 p.m.

mvp13

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Quoting: dougbailey

this is not 1 for 1

Hannifin is a top pairing defenseman on most teams. McCann was left exposed in the expansion draft and was given top line minutes last season.

McCann wasn't left exposed because he sucks. You should look back to how that happened...

Jul. 25, 2022 at 1:55 p.m.

aklavall

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Quoting: mvp13

Obviously, but if he's there it pushes the others down.

This is not a reason to get rid of your best players. This is a reason to get rid of people down the depth charts like valimaki. This is like saying trade Lindholm because zary doesn't get to play.

Jul. 25, 2022 at 2:01 p.m.

mvp13

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Quoting: aklavall

This is not a reason to get rid of your best players. This is a reason to get rid of people down the depth charts like valimaki. This is like saying trade Lindholm because zary doesn't get to play.

Lmao, it's really funny how you continually cherry pick one line to criticize, instead of looking at the whole picture. Oh well

Jul. 25, 2022 at 2:01 p.m.

GenXHockey

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Quoting: mvp13

Obviously, but if he's there it pushes the others down. Weegar is a long term replacement in this scenario

Not even close to fair. Hanifin is better than Weager and will stay with the flames. Hanifin gets zero respect in this site.

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Jul. 25, 2022 at 2:02 p.m.

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: mvp13

I know man, it's better to have Backlund as the 2C and be light on wingers, while having 4million dollar defensemen on the bottom pairing

What are you talking about? Light on wingers? 4M dman on the 3rd pair?

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Jul. 25, 2022 at 2:35 p.m.

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Dont_Fire_Brad_Trelving

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that trade isnt good at all for flames

Jul. 25, 2022 at 2:41 p.m.

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vikhodush

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Have to add at least one good piece going to flames, probably more.

Jul. 25, 2022 at 6:09 p.m.

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mvp13

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

What are you talking about? Light on wingers? 4M dman on the 3rd pair?

Two of Shillington (contract pending, I'm assuming between 3-4mil), Zadorov, or Tanev will be on the 3rd pairing. Regarding the offense, I don't know what is confusing. There is no replacement for Gaudreau and no relevant 2C (pending Monahan)

I also say this assuming Dube will be moved back to a forced, uncomfortable center position given the current roster

Jul. 25, 2022 at 6:09 p.m.

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mvp13

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Quoting: GenXHockey

Not even close to fair. Hanifin is better than Weager and will stay with the flames. Hanifin gets zero respect in this site.

Hanifin is definitely good, but I think you are crazy to say Hanifin is better long term, from today forward

Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:34 p.m.

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GenXHockey

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Quoting: mvp13

Hanifin is definitely good, but I think you are crazy to say Hanifin is better long term, from today forward

Yes from today forward. Provided they can sign him long term. Considering Weager is rhd and stronger on that side I would keep Hanafin and move Tanev next off season.

Jul. 25, 2022 at 9:51 p.m.

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: mvp13

Kylington certainly hasn't earned anywhere close to 4M, 2.5M max. Also Sutter os notorious for rolling the lines pretty evenly. Last year despite being "3rd pair" Gudbranson averaged over 18 minutes a night. Even if Weegar were to be played at 3RD he would very possibly get time on both special teams and average close to 20 minutes. And none of Z, Kylington, or Weeger make or will make 4M

Huberdeau is clearly the replacement for Gaudreau so you can maybe argue there's no replacement for Tkachuk. McCann however certainly doesnt replace that. Monahan is currently expected to return and Pelletier is expected to make the top 9. Depth is far from an issue. The only worrying thing is the loss of an elite talent

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