If FLA is going to dump hornqvist why not take advantage

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Created by: User123409871234

Team: 2022-23 Minnesota Wild

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 26, 2022

Published: Jul. 26, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

MIN

Hörnqvist, Patric
Samoskevich, Mackie [Reserve List]

FLA

Future Considerations

MIN

2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
2025 3rd round pick (TOR)

Additional Details:

As Dumba has been linked to TOR multiple times this offseason, obviously they would have to make subsequent moves to get below the cap, however, I will forever be trading Dumba to TOR

TOR

Dumba, Matt

Buyouts

Zach Parise: $6,371,794
Ryan Suter: $6,371,794

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$78,020,254	$0	$1,532,500	$4,479,746

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kaprizov, Kirill $9,000,000$9,000,000 LW UFA - 4	Hartman, Ryan $1,700,000$1,700,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Zuccarello, Mats $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Foligno, Marcus $3,100,000$3,100,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Eriksson Ek, Joel $5,250,000$5,250,000 C UFA - 7	Greenway, Jordan $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
	Rossi, Marco $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) C RFA - 3	Hörnqvist, Patric $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 1
Boldy, Matthew $880,833$880,833 ($600,000$600K) RW, LW UFA - 1	Gaudreau, Frédérick $1,200,000$1,200,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Jost, Tyson $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA - 1
Dewar, Connor $800,000$800,000 LW, C RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Brodin, Jonas $6,000,000$6,000,000 LD NMC UFA - 6	Spurgeon, Jared $7,575,000$7,575,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Fleury, Marc-André $3,500,000$3,500,000 G NMC UFA - 2
Middleton, Jake $2,450,000$2,450,000 LD UFA - 3	Addison, Calen $795,000$795,000 ($82,500$82K) RD RFA - 1	Gustavsson, Filip $787,500$787,500 G UFA - 1
Kulikov, Dmitry $1,125,000$1,125,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1
	Merrill, Jon $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Duhaime, Brandon $750,000$750,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Goligoski, Alex $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD NMC UFA - 2

Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:43 a.m.

Burnout

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Because there really isn't a market for that kind of Dumba right now with the cap squeeze. Toronto certainly can't make that trade.

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Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:45 a.m.

User123409871234

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Quoting: Burnout

Because there really isn't a market for that kind of Dumba right now with the cap squeeze. Toronto certainly can't make that trade.

TOR is one of the only teams in the league that has shown interest in Dumba, so if there is interest, there has to be a plan of how to get it done.

Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:46 a.m.

RaZZe

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Something about 10+ teams wanting to take Hornqvist for a 2nd rounder or more tells me dumping him won't be that expensive

Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.

Riley816

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That's not trading Dumba. That's giving him to Toronto.

Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:51 a.m.

User123409871234

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Quoting: Riley816

That's not trading Dumba. That's giving him to Toronto.

It has been reported that GMBG has been quietly shopping Dumba for weeks, with no takers. The only team noted that has previously and is believed to still have interest is TOR.

Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:57 a.m.

Burnout

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Quoting: User123409871234

TOR is one of the only teams in the league that has shown interest in Dumba, so if there is interest, there has to be a plan of how to get it done.

Sure. Minny would have to take cap back. Which they can't because you have them acquiring Hornqvist.

Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:58 a.m.

User123409871234

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Quoting: Burnout

Sure. Minny would have to take cap back. Which they can't because you have them acquiring Hornqvist.

TOR probably cannot acquire Dumba without moving Nylander, which the wild could not take him on. So they would have to go elsewhere with that.

Jul. 26, 2022 at 12:03 p.m.

SNipeSHowInc

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Quoting: User123409871234

It has been reported that GMBG has been quietly shopping Dumba for weeks, with no takers. The only team noted that has previously and is believed to still have interest is TOR.

Would you mind linking that report?

Jul. 26, 2022 at 12:05 p.m.

User123409871234

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Quoting: SNipeSHowInc

Would you mind linking that report?

Within this is the podcast that the wild beat reporter says ~3 times that Dumba is not as safe as some assume.

https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/minnesota-wild-quietly-shopping-matt-dumba/

Jul. 26, 2022 at 12:07 p.m.

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Burnout

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Quoting: User123409871234

TOR probably cannot acquire Dumba without moving Nylander, which the wild could not take him on. So they would have to go elsewhere with that.

That's a lot of work for a rental that they don't need that badly. Especially moving a guy as good as Nylander. Minny's leverage also evaporates as soon as they add Hornqvist.

Jul. 26, 2022 at 12:08 p.m.

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Quoting: Burnout

That's a lot of work for a rental that they don't need that badly. Especially moving a guy as good as Nylander. Minny's leverage also evaporates as soon as they add Hornqvist.

It would have to go in reverse order, get to $10M in cap space and then take him.

Jul. 26, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.

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Burnout

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Quoting: User123409871234

It would have to go in reverse order, get to $10M in cap space and then take him.

Which is why moves like that rarely happen and why its almost August and over half the teams in the NHL still haven't finished their offseason work.

Jul. 26, 2022 at 12:16 p.m.

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Take kerfoot and retain 50% and sure you have a deal

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