@Byrr


Well

Or you can use long term outlook view - it lists total salaries & bonuses separately.

Or you can look Here

That’s good info - I wasn’t aware of this complication. Thx for sharing. But even considering this - the leafs 20 man roster as shown is still cap compliant, albeit just barely

In your math you don’t account for overages however. You can have 20 contracts total under the 82.5 but say you have dead cap like a buyout, retained salary, or overages, then you HAVE to include that. Hypothetically if the leafs were to buyout a contract, would you include the buyout cost in your final cap hit or just proceed to look like an imbecile.

If you want to add it to the end, go ahead. I'm saving it for step 2 to show you how CapFriendly manages the overage.

No, I just have 2 people who have no idea what they are talking about doubling down on something a simple addition proves they are wrong on. Do your math homework, then we can talk.

You doubled down to make yourself look like an idiot, well done.

Your welcome, happy to share useful information.

But no, they need to move salary out, there are not cap complaint.

There it is. The total value of all 20 contracts + the 212,5000 of the overage. This is how capfriendly calculates the overage penalty. This is when I throw my head back and laugh at what an idiot you've been. Go back to grade school and learn how to use a calculator.

Is it just me or does it seem like CapFriendly made a mistake here? I'm probably wrong seeing as I'm just some shmuck, but it seems like they've both subtracted Liljegren's bonus from their cap limit and added it to their total cap hit.

That's the mistake @MatthewsFan and @Cardiac have doubled down over and over again on. He won't listen when you tell him that the overage penalty was added as a cap hit so he made the mistake of lowering the cap ceiling on this team so they got hit twice by it. It's the users mistake, not CapFriendly's.

I value your opinion so by all means tell me I’m wrong.

82,287,500


The Lesfs are working with that next year

Tfw you show him the math and he still double downs on being an idiot.

Ugh what math, I’m showing you next year the Leafs are not operating under a 82,500,000 salary cap.

The have only $82,287,500

Oh, I see, the Cap Space section was edited, not automatically set to that.

Yeah, I mean, you're right; that is what the Leafs are working with next year. CapFriendly has taken that into account, just not by subtracting it from the Salary Cap section, but rather by adding it to the sum of the other listed cap hits. Basically what Byrr said, just with less hostility.

and I've shown you the manner in which CapFriendly displays that. The 20 contracts the Leafs have signed next season equal out to $82,268,116. I showed you the math. The cap hit for this team is $82,480,616. That is calculated by taking the total value of the contracts and adding the overage penalty rather than subtracting it from the cap ceiling. 82,268,116 + 212,500 = 82,480,616. Your cap hit.

Yes, I did that. This season the Leafs (7 NHL this season have ab operating salary cap of 82,500,000) only have 82,287,500 to work with this year.

Something @Byrr can’t get his little head around

Ight yea we wrong. I crunched the numbers and I assumed he was getting his total without the cap hit of the overages. Overages included they barely and I mean barely get by. To be fair @byrr you weren’t saying you were including the overages in your math. I will accept the L here.

Bro we are wrong here. Capfriendly accounts for overages. We done messed up. We look like idiots.

Well fukc me, I’m wrong @Byrr I did not know that CapFriendly did this.

You are right, I was wrong

Yes, but CapFriendly has already done it for you. They've added Liljegren's bonus to the Leafs cap hit. You subtracting it from their cap limit doubles the overage penalty.

Yup yup, I am wrong

Great, now please go tell that Ducks fan who loves to make bad Leafs AGMs too before he repeats this.