Thanks for wishing me good luck!

Fair enough. I don't put too much stock in rumours. I do believe of all the French Canadian players not in the NHL currently, Pelletier is #1 on the Habs wishlist. So at least that part of the rumour makes sense.

I'd have to disagree with you on one thing, there isn't any risk for the Habs here.

Both Kerfoot and Holl are off the books as of next year, if they even make it that far. Both can be flipped as deadline acquisitions, essentially getting your 2 4th round picks back at the least.

MTL has internal prospects valued higher than Norlinder and Ylonen, plus they'd be getting a higher end prospect in Niemela. The risk is mostly in TOR's court, which they are gambling that Niemela doesn't turn into the top 4 RD they think he can be.

Seems I am kind of talking myself out of this deal. I don't mind TOR taking the gamble and moving a higher end prospect, but only to make a significant upgrade to the current roster. This situation is more about saving cap space than adding something valuable to the roster.

Sandin isn’t really a prospect anymore, Leaf’s top 2 prospects is knies and Niemela. Robertson hasn’t really proven himself yet

I know Toronto has been MUCH better than the Habs at development in the past decade if not more. That being said, Norlinder was considered to be a top 4 prospect 2 years ago, and his game did not transfer to the North American smaller ice very well. There is always risk with players 2-3 years out.

Ylonen can help the leafs as well for a few years, but I agree the value is not Dadonov, but cap-savings so you can do things like retain Sandin. I am open to any cap dumps, not specifically those 2 players. I am looking to make a deal here!

Sorry sir. I was going off these articles written by smarter hockey people than me:

https://thehockeywriters.com/maple-leafs-top-10-prospects-2022-23/
https://theleafsnation.com/2022/06/25/the-current-state-of-the-leafs-prospect-pool-heading-into-the-entry-draft/

we don't have to give up holloway for andersen in any deal. Very overrated player to give up our top prospect for. pass everyday of the week.

Alright sir. Thanks for sharing your perspective!

no problem, whole point of armchair gm's

I think I misunderstood what you meant by taking a risk. I assumed you meant about the trade, but it appears as though you meant risk in drafting.

In any case, I think Id rather yank out all the prospects, have Kerfoot + Holl for Dadanov half retained and TOR adds pick(s) to compensate.

A hard no from Edmonton is an understatement.

Poolboy still has a ceiling, and produces almost as much as Anderson and Holloway is projected to be a legit top 6. In two years, Edmonton had the privilege of having the worst player in the deal lol.

Laughably bad for Calgary. Pelletier has far more value than Dvorak alone. Healthy Monahan for Dvorak is a side grade for some unneeded cap relief for only 1 year

Ah. Don't think the Habs go for that. The goal is to look for prospects who will be truly NHL-ready in 0-3 years. I think anyone drafted after the top 32 in 2023 will be minimum 4 years away. Habs don't really care for who is on the team this year or next. They are looking to compete in 2024-25.

Thanks for thinking about it anyways! Nice to interface with a Leafs fan who does not think all Habs fans are nuts... I really want a Canadian team to win the cup, and the Leafs, Oilers, and Flames are closest.

Thanks for your response. I was looking at Monahan as a cap/salary dump. I did not realize he will play. I was mostly looking at Dvorak (as a need filled with Monahan out) against Pelletier. Good value for the Habs for sure but Dvorak is ahead of Pelletier today (though Pelletier will probably pass him in value in a few years).

Not looking to offend anyone here (though I seem to be offending everyone!)

At 50% retained?? That's sweet! I take that deal. Imagine a big strong fast first line of:
Kane - McDavid - Anderson

That is built for playoffs.

If Monahan could not play a replacement for dirt cheap in Kerfoot (who is as good or better than Dvorak) could be acquired instead. Calgary ideally wants to move Backlund to 3C, not acquiring an inferior 3C with term to prevent that.

As for Pelletier's value, it is not far off of Caufield's. I would say Caufield certainly has more value than Dvorak

Flames reject, Pelts will be better than Dvorak

That valuation is offensive. In any case, good luck with your season!