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Created by: TheRealisticGuy
Team: 2022-23 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 18, 2022
Published: Aug. 18, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$5,000,000
2$2,500,000
1$1,150,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$7,000,000
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Girard, Samuel
Additional Details:
Islanders LHD is set for years with Pelech Girard Romanov
Islanders signed Kadri 7 X 7
COL
  1. Nelson, Brock
Additional Details:
COL gets a solid 2C with terms and who can score goals
2.
ARI
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (NYI)
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$82,090,838$245,796$1,287,500$409,162
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the New York Islanders
$7,000,000$7,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,150,000$1,150,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$1,125,875$1,125,875
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$750,000$750,000 (Performance Bonus$750,000$750K)
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$2,500,000$2,500,000
C
UFA - 5
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the New York Islanders
$6,150,000$6,150,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo of the New York Islanders
$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the New York Islanders
$825,000$825,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Aug. 18, 2022 at 2:04 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
once again you are proving my point of not understanding the player and not understanding waht you are looking at.
Its ok, you dont have to blindly hate bc you dont want a trade,


Proving what point? That you arent capable of reading simple charts????? Youre just pulling excuses out of your ass for a player thats not as good as you want or think he is.
Aug. 18, 2022 at 2:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Islesforthecup
Proving what point? That you arent capable of reading simple charts????? Youre just pulling excuses out of your ass for a player thats not as good as you want or think he is.






or the creator of said charts is saying it himself that his model is sewering girards card bc of his negative impacts wtih the Jack Johnson pair.
Like I said undestand the context
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 2:13 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16




or the creator of said charts is saying it himself that his model is sewering girards card bc of his negative impacts wtih the Jack Johnson pair.
Like I said undestand the context


Byrams also a problem right? Also that was posted on march 2nd whereas the pic i posted is up to date.
Heres something else to think about. If johnson and byrams other pairings are fine but when playing with girard they tank maybe girard actually is the issue????
Aug. 18, 2022 at 2:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Islesforthecup
Byrams also a problem right? Also that was posted on march 2nd whereas the pic i posted is up to date.
Heres something else to think about. If johnson and byrams other pairings are fine but when playing with girard they tank maybe girard actually is the issue????


Its bc of his model how its pulling the data...I dont think you really comprehended his post of why his card is looking that way,
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 2:15 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16




or the creator of said charts is saying it himself that his model is sewering girards card bc of his negative impacts wtih the Jack Johnson pair.
Like I said undestand the context


It also doesnt explain why hes literally the worst on the pp. Johnson doesnt play the pp so theres obviously something else that is going on here
Aug. 18, 2022 at 2:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Islesforthecup
It also doesnt explain why hes literally the worst on the pp. Johnson doesnt play the pp so theres obviously something else that is going on here


bc Girard doesnt play PP1, he splits time on PP2 with Toews and the PP2 unit wasnt used much, they would get the last 30 seconds if at all.
Again context, you need to understand that in relation to what the cards are saying
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 2:22 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Its bc of his model how its pulling the data...I dont think you really comprehended his post of why his card is looking that way,


I fully understand whats going on what i dont think you understand is that it might be skewing girards stats slightly but the model (which btw isnt jfreshs he just provides visualization) is built to try and isolate individual impacts regardless of teammates. It isnt perfect but its pretty good. Another thing it doesnt seem like you understand is that jacks comment is an inference he drew from the numbers. Not everyone will draw the same conclusion from the same data. I like what jack does bc i cant personally watch every team enough but hes not the second coming of jesus.
Aug. 18, 2022 at 2:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Islesforthecup
I fully understand whats going on what i dont think you understand is that it might be skewing girards stats slightly but the model (which btw isnt jfreshs he just provides visualization) is built to try and isolate individual impacts regardless of teammates. It isnt perfect but its pretty good. Another thing it doesnt seem like you understand is that jacks comment is an inference he drew from the numbers. Not everyone will draw the same conclusion from the same data. I like what jack does bc i cant personally watch every team enough but hes not the second coming of jesus.


Enough I’ll delete my AGM
Girard is good, stop trolling with advanced stats
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 2:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Islesforthecup
I fully understand whats going on what i dont think you understand is that it might be skewing girards stats slightly but the model (which btw isnt jfreshs he just provides visualization) is built to try and isolate individual impacts regardless of teammates. It isnt perfect but its pretty good. Another thing it doesnt seem like you understand is that jacks comment is an inference he drew from the numbers. Not everyone will draw the same conclusion from the same data. I like what jack does bc i cant personally watch every team enough but hes not the second coming of jesus.


no one was claiming he was the second coming of jesus, never once have I stated such a thing. You have been actively trying to belittle the player in an effort to try to reinforce your own opinion.
You are flip flopping your stance here, You are now claiming you dont watch or understand every player but are trying to tell an avs fan that you know the player of them...then doubling down on a player card that doesnt paint a true picture of the player last season?
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 2:28 p.m.
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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
Enough I’ll delete my AGM
Girard is good, stop trolling with advanced stats


Lmao trolling???? Take girard out of COL and he will be a much worse player than people seem to think he is
 
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