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Created by: MontysPython

Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 18, 2022

Published: Aug. 18, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Puljujarvi: Re-Signed-$4.4M×3
Monahan: Re-Signed-$5.8M×1
Caufield: Re-Signed-$7.4M×7
Harris: Re-Signed-$3.1M×4
Harvey-Pinard: Re-Signed-$1.2M×2
Ylonen: Re-Signed-$0.992M×1
Farrell: Signed-$0.925×3

Guhle: 3rd Pairing Left
Harris: 2nd Pairing Left
Caufield: 1st Line Right
Slafkovsky: 1st Line Left
Pulujarvi: 2nd Line Right
Farrell: 3rd Line Left
Pitlick: 2nd Line Left

Hoffman: Traded
Edmundson: Traded
Acciari: Traded
Drouin: Traded/UFA
Byron: UFA

Cap space:$6,692,166 for 2023 season.

Assets Shelled Out:
D-Mailloux, Norlinder, Xhekaj
C-Mysak, Kidney, Davidson
Picks-2025 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2024 2nd

Assets Brought In:
G-Dipietro
Picks-2024 4th, 6th×2, 7th, 2023 4th, 2025 7th×2

Average Age Before ACGM for 2022 season-26.4
Average Age Now for 2023 season-24.6

Acciari is protection for Monahan injuries. In the event of an injury, Dach & Evans move up, Acciari moves one to the left at the middle, and Pezzetta or Ylonen move in. Healthy, it's a solid roster, and despite shelling out on some pretty big prospects, there's still the core pool left.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Dach, Kirby		2	$2,400,000
Primeau, Cayden		2	$925,000

Trades

MTL

DiPietro, Michael
Pearson, Tanner
2023 4th round pick (NYR)

VAN

Dadonov, Evgeni ($2,500,000 retained)

MTL

Hart, Carter
Ristolainen, Rasmus
2024 6th round pick (PHI)
2024 7th round pick (PHI)
2025 7th round pick (PHI)

PHI

Additional Details:

2025 1st Round Pick(CGY/FLA)

MTL

Girard, Samuel
2024 4th round pick (COL)

COL

MTL

Future Considerations

ARI

Armia, Joel
Savard, David
Smilanic, Ty [Reserve List]
Stephens, Mitchell
2024 2nd round pick (COL)

MTL

Foegele, Warren
Puljujärvi, Jesse
2024 6th round pick (EDM)
2025 7th round pick (EDM)

EDM

Anderson, Josh
Davidson, Jared [Reserve List]
Wideman, Chris
Xhekaj, Arber
2025 2nd round pick (MTL)

MTL

Acciari, Noel

STL

Foegele, Warren ($1,000,000 retained)
2025 3rd round pick (MTL)

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Evgeni Dadonov: $2,500,000 (100%)
Tanner Pearson: $1,625,000 (50%)
Warren Foegele: $1,000,000 (36.36%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$82,500,000	$67,793,166	$1,132,500	$5,070,000	$14,706,834

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 8	Puljujärvi, Jesse $3,000,000$3,000,000 RW UFA - 1
Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 3	Monahan, Sean $6,375,000$6,375,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 2
	Dach, Kirby $2,400,000$2,400,000 C, RW RFA - 4	Acciari, Noel $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 3	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $825,000$825,000 LW, RW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,100,000$5,100,000 RD UFA - 5	Hart, Carter $3,979,000$3,979,000 G RFA - 2
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Girard, Samuel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 5	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 2
Harris, Jordan $842,500$842,500 ($507,500$508K) LD/RD RFA - 1	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Schueneman, Corey $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1		Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 4
		Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
		Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Caufield, C.		Suzuki, N.		Puljujärvi, J.
	Matheson, M.		Hoffman, M.

Power Play 2
Pitlick, R.		Monahan, S.		Dach, K.
	Girard, S.		Barron, J.

Penalty Kill 1
	Monahan, S.	Dach, K.
	Edmundson, J.	Girard, S.

Penalty Kill 2
	Suzuki, N.	Evans, J.
	Harris, J.	Ristolainen, R.

Dvorak for Girard Trade:

Aug. 18, 2022 at 7:16 p.m.

TheHebrewHammer

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EVERYONE ACCEPT!

Aug. 18, 2022 at 7:22 p.m.

The_Rocket

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Not sure about any of the other trades but that first deal should work great for Van

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Aug. 18, 2022 at 9:13 p.m.

TJTwolf

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Still a no from the Avs.

Aug. 19, 2022 at 3:11 a.m.

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Quoting: TJTwolf

Still a no from the Avs.

Ok, I edited it so that the Avs trade up to get a valuable 2023 4th, & lose a 2025 5th. They gain $450,000 in cap, while filling in a needed role. Dvorak isn't injury prone, and he is sure to produce more with talented wingers beside him. Byram has grown considerably, and can take over Girard's role.

Aug. 19, 2022 at 7:47 a.m.

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Quoting: Mglgoalie33

Rather hold onto Girard if that's the best offer.

Aug. 19, 2022 at 7:55 a.m.

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Quoting: TJTwolf

Rather hold onto Girard if that's the best offer.

When Mack wants more money in 2 years, what's the better contact to trade? 1 year left on Dvorak, or 4 years on Girard? I'll add a prospect, and move the pick lower.

Aug. 19, 2022 at 8:32 a.m.

TJTwolf

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Quoting: Mglgoalie33

When Mack wants more money in 2 years, what's the better contact to trade? 1 year left on Dvorak, or 4 years on Girard? I'll add a prospect, and move the pick lower.

4 years on Girard obviously. He has more value now and will have more value then. Prospects and low picks aren't relevant. Quality over quantity. The Avs would likely only trade Girard if they're acquiring a genuine 2C. Dvorak isn't one and the rest is essentially irrelevant to the Avs as they're in 'win now' mode. MacKinnon's contract is covered by EJ's money anyway. No need to trade Girard for that.

Aug. 19, 2022 at 8:43 a.m.

CD282

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Easy no from Edmonton. Anderson is a cap dump, you aren't getting a quality young player back for him. The rest of that offer is just a bunch of useless stuff.

Aug. 21, 2022 at 3:12 a.m.

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Quoting: CD282

Easy no from Edmonton. Anderson is a cap dump, you aren't getting a quality young player back for him. The rest of that offer is just a bunch of useless stuff.

I'm literally going off of rumors from NHL sources. Anderson's value is high, and he'll get traded for a big return

Aug. 21, 2022 at 3:14 a.m.

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Edited Aug. 21, 2022 at 3:29 a.m.

Quoting: TJTwolf

What other 2Cs are on the trade market? I haven't heard of many if not any with low cap hits for a low price. There's Henrique, Dowd, Laughton. Dowd might be the most realistic but hes quite pricey. Signing Mack with Johnson's extra cap will lose you Francouz and Toews the year after. Newhook needs a new salary, so will Compher and Byram.

Aug. 21, 2022 at 9:25 a.m.

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Quoting: Mglgoalie33

You don't move Girard for pennies on the dollar. You can move him when he has 3 years or 2 years on his deal even. His value is unlikely to drop much in that time. At worst it plateaus. The Avs can easily run with Rantanen/Landeskog/Compher at 2C if they wanted if Newhook doesn't work out. Whilst not ideal it's not like there is any desperation to trade Girard or acquire a 2C which I'll state again I don't believe Dvorak to be anyway. They can even run like that the whole season and look for a TDL signing if they think they need to, having accrued cap. Francouz likely wouldn't be returning then unless he's managed to take the starting job. Annuen would be expected to be ready by that point. I'm guessing following the Habs you are more familiar with their structure, prospects and pipeline etc than I would be and less so with the Avs. Compher I doubt is re-signed anyway. Helm and Cogliano will have gone. The Avs will likely go top heavy like the Lightning did and fill out the bottom 6 with vets similar to Cogliano & Helm who want a cup shot or ELCs The cap isn't as big an issue for the Avs as ppl seem to believe on here.

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Aug. 22, 2022 at 7:01 a.m.

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Quoting: Mglgoalie33

I'm literally going off of rumors from NHL sources. Anderson's value is high, and he'll get traded for a big return

I wouldn't take him for free. He's not worth his $5.5M paycheck. In any case, the Oilers don't have a need for him nor the cap space to make such a deal. So it's a NO from Edmonton.

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Aug. 22, 2022 at 10:06 p.m.

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Quoting: CD282

I wouldn't take him for free. He's not worth his $5.5M paycheck. In any case, the Oilers don't have a need for him nor the cap space to make such a deal. So it's a NO from Edmonton.

Would you take Edmundson as help on D? So Edmundson, Wideman, Xhekaj(really promising d prospect), Davidson(puts up points in OHL, and a 2nd for Pulujarvi and Foegele? Or would the trade need a forward as well?

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