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Post-Training Camp and Waivers

Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 25, 2022
Published: Aug. 25, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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SO. MANY. DEPTH. FORWARDS.

Bergevin really screwed this team in order to try and remain relevant. Now that Price likely won't play again, it has bought us some time so that the rebuild doesn't have to necessarily be accelerated. There are positional needs that need to be filled from outside our organization, including: a starting goaltender (Tristan Jarry, a UFA in 2023 comes to mind), a top RD (less likely but a solid top-4 would be acceptable), and another big young forward (through draft, hopefully a top-5 pick in 2023).

Moving contracts will be difficult, but not all of them will have to be traded, as some will just have to be rode out for one or two seasons or buried in the minors.

There are two different messages that I feel from the management of the Canadiens: not to rush the high end talent (Slafkovsky, Guhle) into a bad situation AND to give the more mature mid-tier prospects a chance as the team doesn't necessarily need to compete. Because of their age and contract clauses, Guhle and Slafkovsky (and Mesar) respectively can play in the AHL if need be. I'm a fan of giving them some pro experience, but would rather them play important roles on a likely competitive Laval Rocket squad than on the Canadiens.

I think that both Justin Barron and Jordan Harris will make the Canadiens come training camp, and I think that picking up a RHD off waivers will be a good move to shelter them. This is not a sleight to Chris Wideman, but if there's a chance to better the D-corps by adding a young and cheap, but skilled and experienced RHD off waivers, they'd be stupid not to.

LTIR rundown:

Depending on his training camp physical, Price will likely never play again and the remaining four years of his contract will be spent on LTIR. I fully expect Paul Byron not to be on the roster to begin the season, and I don't know if he will be able to play at any point either.

Waiver placements:

1. Joel Armia struggles in camp and loses his roster spot to a younger, cheaper, Jesse Ylonen. The three years remaining on Armia's contract and his inconsistency are enough of a deterrent so that teams will not pick him up. He'll be reporting to the Laval Rocket.

2. Mike Hoffman had a bad season, sure. However, the likelihood of the soon-to-be 33 year old Hoffman rebounding are low. He's a one dimensional player, with a high cap hit. If there's someone looking for goal scoring and money isn't a factor (AHEM ARIZONA), he's theirs for the taking. This contract may be bought out at the end of 2022-23, but I'm not holding my breath.

Waiver claims:

1. Ethan Bear looks like the odd man out with the return of Jake Gardiner to the Hurricanes lineup. He may be kept on the roster as a depth defenceman, however, $2.2 million is a relatively expensive healthy scratch.

2. Andrew Hammond is currently on a PTO with the Florida Panthers and requires waivers to be moved off their roster. Should he be signed to a contract, or has a decent camp, Montreal would be silly to not pick him up. If the objective this season is to be bad, then having a goaltending tandem making a combined $2 million wouldn't be a horrible idea.

Trade:

Montreal takes advantage of Vegas' goaltending situation and ships a half salary-retained Jake Allen for a 3rd round pick in 2023 and a conditional 3rd round pick in 2025. The conditional pick becomes a 2025 2nd round pick if Allen re-signs with Vegas or appears in at least 35 games in 2022-23.

Looking Ahead:

There will be a number of players moved by the deadline including Dadonov, Monahan, Drouin and maybe Byron if healthy (all are pending UFAs).

In terms of the 2023 NHL Draft, I think Adam Fantilli would be an attractive option for Montreal considering the recent moves made to bolster the size, speed and skill of the forward group, should the Canadiens have a top-3 pick. Should they have either the 4th or 5th pick, I would have a slight preference for Brayden Yager, but I would not be upset with either Dalibor Dvorsky or Zach Benson. Better yet, maybe we'll make Bedard's dad (a Habs fan since the 70s) a very happy man by drafting his son 1st in 2023.
Free Agent Signings
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3$2,500,000
2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
Trades
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        Andrew Hammond
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          Waivers
          4.
          MTL
          1. 2023 3rd round pick (VGK)
          2. 2025 3rd round pick (VGK)
          Additional Details:
          Condition on 2025 3rd round pick:

          If Allen re-signs or appears in at least 35 games, the 2025 3rd round pick will become a 2025 2nd round pick.
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          1. Allen, Jake ($1,437,500 retained)
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          2024
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          2025
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          23$82,500,000$68,719,999$1,132,500$5,070,000$13,780,001
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          $2,500,000$2,500,000
          RW, LW
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          UFA - 1
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          $7,875,000$7,875,000
          C
          UFA - 8
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          $880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
          LW, RW
          UFA - 1
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          $5,500,000$5,500,000
          LW, RW
          M-NTC
          UFA - 1
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          $4,450,000$4,450,000
          C
          UFA - 3
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          $6,500,000$6,500,000
          RW, LW
          M-NTC, NMC
          UFA - 5
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          $950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
          RW, LW
          RFA - 3
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          $2,500,000$2,500,000
          C, RW
          RFA - 4
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          $5,500,000$5,500,000
          RW, LW
          M-NTC
          UFA - 5
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          $1,100,000$1,100,000
          LW, RW
          UFA - 2
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          $6,375,000$6,375,000
          C, LW, RW
          M-NTC
          UFA - 1
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          $1,700,000$1,700,000
          C
          UFA - 3
          Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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          $4,875,000$4,875,000
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          UFA - 4
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          $3,500,000$3,500,000
          RD
          UFA - 3
          $1,000,000$1,000,000
          G
          UFA
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          $875,000$875,000
          LD/RD
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          UFA - 2
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          $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
          RD
          RFA - 2
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          $1,000,000$1,000,000
          G
          UFA - 2
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          $842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
          LD/RD
          RFA - 1
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          $1,800,000$1,800,000
          RD
          UFA - 1
          ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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          $762,500$762,500
          RD
          UFA - 2
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          $3,400,000$3,400,000
          LW, RW
          UFA - 1
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          $880,833$880,833
          RW, LW
          RFA - 1
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          $10,500,000$10,500,000
          G
          NMC
          UFA - 4
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          LW, RW
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          Aug. 25, 2022 at 7:46 p.m.
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          You can pay to acquire Bear, since he won’t be hitting waivers. Besides, the Canes cap issue will either be solved at the deadline or Gardiner will get hurt again and just LTIRetire and be resolved in that way. 2nd or 3rd rounder for Bear and you got a done deal.
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          Aug. 25, 2022 at 7:49 p.m.
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          vegas declines, it's been announced we are dedicating to a thompson/brossoit tandem
          Aug. 25, 2022 at 7:56 p.m.
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          Quoting: evelutions2
          You can pay to acquire Bear, since he won’t be hitting waivers. Besides, the Canes cap issue will either be solved at the deadline or Gardiner will get hurt again and just LTIRetire and be resolved in that way. 2nd or 3rd rounder for Bear and you got a done deal.


          Could be different than the reality, but I've seen many ACGMs putting him as the 7th D.
          Aug. 25, 2022 at 7:56 p.m.
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          Bear isn’t going on waivers, Gardiner might though!
          Aug. 25, 2022 at 7:59 p.m.
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          Quoting: migsahoy
          vegas declines, it's been announced we are dedicating to a thompson/brossoit tandem


          Negociating 101 : don't scream at the top of your lungs that you are desperate for something , instead mske it seems like you are comfortable in your position to drive th price down.

          IMO Vegas can't aspire to anything this season with that goalie tandem . I'm not saying Allen is the answer ( Maybe Varlamov) and for a team that has shown 0 patience since thier start , a bad start of the season and a trade will be made .
          Aug. 25, 2022 at 8:03 p.m.
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          I don’t see Bear going on waivers. And I don’t think I would give much in terms of futures for him in a trade so….
          Hope a Connor Timmins or that kinda type would be put on waivers
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          Aug. 25, 2022 at 8:03 p.m.
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          Quoting: liamarchibald00
          Could be different than the reality, but I've seen many ACGMs putting him as the 7th D.


          Third pair is going to be a rotation between Bear Gardiner and Coglan. Gardiner is rumored to have been injured again so it might just be Bear and Coglan. I’m sure CAR would move him for a mid pick but no reason to waive him, not realistic.
          Aug. 25, 2022 at 9:07 p.m.
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          Yeah you can pay the appropriate cap dump price for Hoffman, Arizona isn’t doing that for free
          Aug. 25, 2022 at 9:44 p.m.
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          Quoting: Yotes269
          Yeah you can pay the appropriate cap dump price for Hoffman, Arizona isn’t doing that for free


          Read the description. I said "if" they wanted him they could have him for free. I was placing him on waivers to bury him in the AHL
          Aug. 25, 2022 at 11:43 p.m.
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          Quoting: liamarchibald00
          Read the description. I said "if" they wanted him they could have him for free. I was placing him on waivers to bury him in the AHL


          I read the description, there doesn’t need to be an “if”, it won’t happen. The supposedly money conscious yotes don’t do shît for free
          Aug. 26, 2022 at 11:55 a.m.
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          Quoting: Yotes269
          I read the description, there doesn’t need to be an “if”, it won’t happen. The supposedly money conscious yotes don’t do shît for free


          Clean your glasses:

          If there's someone looking for goal scoring and money isn't a factor(AHEM ARIZONA), he's theirs for the taking. This contract may be bought out at the end of 2022-23, but I'm not holding my breath.”

          I didn’t say they were going to do it either.
           
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