Yeah but there not getting bedard, bedard is probably going to be first overall

Monahan is coming back from consecutive back to back hip surgeries. The odds of him having a decent season is pretty small. And he's still not getting no late 1st. You'd be lucky to get a 4th round pick out of him he's a complete mess.

Chiarot returned an unprotected 1st and Edmundson is better so... why not?
Anderson could definitely return a 1st.
Dvorak and Monahan would need to play insanely well early this season to return 1st at the deadline, yes, I know I'm wayyyy to optimistic here lol.

Oh yes I know how unlikely it is, but if by some divine intervention he starts to play at like 3-4 years ago, we're getting a 1st for him

Chiarot was a total desperation from Florida, And how did that work out?.

Dvorak has never played insanely well in his entire career. And like i said Monahan is coming back from consecutive back to back hip surgeries. So the odds of him playing insanely well are pretty nil.

Odds of every d man reaching their potential is probably one in roughly a million. And even so, they’re still not great.
Toffoli was good and had a good contract. Chiarot’ s was expiring. Dvorak sucks, monahan sucks (i mean really, you think the habs get a first to take him and then a first for him? Get real), edmunson is meh. Think maybe a 5th for Dvorak if some team is desperate. No one wants that kind of term for that kind of player.

We see stupid trades like Chiarot for a 1st literally every year at the deadline. There's 0% chance all my trades happen, but could one (or even two) of Anderson, Edmundson, Dvorak, Monahan return 1st round picks at the deadline or next off season? Definitely possible.

KH landed an unprotected first for Chiarot, so trading Edmundson for a 1st isn't unrealistic..
The Hoffman and Savard trades could be realistic....
The Dvorak and Monahan trades would require both of the to play very, very well this season.
I might have exaggerated just a tiny bit with Armia, Wideman, Anderson, and Gallagher...

Dovarak would need to put up elite numbers to get a 1st round pick, Not happening. Monahan same thing not happening. Anderson league wide is not considered a positive asset. So good luck on the 1st with him. Edmundson you might get lucky with a 1st but that's about it.

Dovarak would need to put up elite numbers to get a 1st round pick, Not happening. Monahan same thing not happening. Anderson league wide is not considered a positive asset. So good luck on the 1st with him. Edmundson you might get lucky with a 1st but that's about it.

Most teams, even the contenders, are going to resist trading their 2023 1st if it is for a rental unless they are getting a superstar and they really think they have a chance to win, they would probably do a conditional 2nd that upgrades to a 1st based on a conference finals appearance.

Anderson definitely has good positive value league wide.

Yeah Anderson has value, I was thinking about Hoffman who has negative value league wide.

Edmundson is better than Chiarot and only has 2 yrs left at 3.5M$, he could land a first.
Monahan getting a 1st is wishful thinking, I know.
Dvorak getting a late first is not unthinkable, depending on the market at the deadline and how well he plays. A 5th is just ridiculous.

We're going to see crazy trades at the deadline like every year.

That's true but maybe less so this year unless the quality of rentals are superb like Patrick Kane, I doubt Monohan even with a great season would fetch a current 1st unless it was conditional on the receiving team's performance+his contribution. I would be even more surprised though if Edmundson returns a 1st even though he has 2 years unless he's in high demand for amazing play rather than just being better than Chiarot.

Dvorak getting a late first is unthinkable unless he has a career year. I don’t see that happening in Montreal.

If he performs this season as well as he played under MSL so far, he's definitely worth a late 1st.

If Monahan can play like he from 2014 to 2019 (yes I know how very, very unlikely this is. I'm just being overly optimistic for fun), then he could definitively land MTL a first as a rental.
We see players like Edmundson (big-bodied, solid defensively, relatively cheap) traded for 1st round pick pretty much every year. It wouldn't be surprising to see a contending team wanting to add a Dman like that for a 25-32nd pick.

In some parallel universe, maybe. Not in reality though.

Well in this universe, a 26yrs old C, who is good defensively, excellent in faceoffs, producing at a rate of 63pts/season (which is what he did under MSL (17pts in 22 games)), signed at a reasonnable salary for the next 3 years is definitely worth a late first. Probably even in some parallel universe too tho.

Well in this universe, a 26yrs old C, who is good defensively, excellent in faceoffs, producing at a rate of 63pts/season (which is what he did under MSL (17pts in 22 games)), signed at a reasonnable salary for the next 3 years is definitely worth a late first. Probably even in some parallel universe too tho.

Congrats on a reasonable point total in 22 games.

NHL GMs aren’t that stupid.

22 game sample size is not enough. Produce 63 points over an 82 game span is a different story