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Its gotta be Dach or Monahan

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Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 5, 2022
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The Habs need to answer the question about who is gonna play on Suzuki's other wing. Clearly Slafkovsky is not ready. I really hope they try Dach & Monahan over the next 2 games.

Dach will be a Center long term, but I think it's more important for him to do some Damage on the scoresheet night in and night out this year and the way he uses his body and his speed and skill, I'd love to see him on the big line.

Monahan has shown in his 1 game that he's not done. He can bring that experience to that line and help both Suzuki & Caufield if he can find his offensive touch.

The only other guy that might make sense and I would love it... Is Jake Evans. He has the speed and he's willing to put in the work. The skill is questionable. He's probably drag those two down a bit.
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Oct. 5, 2022 at 7:26 a.m.
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To paraphrase St. Louis, "Wins don't always come on the scoresheet"

The development of Dach is important, especially as a center, I would personally like to see him with Drouin and Gallagher.
Oct. 5, 2022 at 7:27 a.m.
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Marc The Muscleman Bergevin would have had the cojones to just put JS on line 1.
Oct. 5, 2022 at 7:35 a.m.
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Quoting: earl08
Marc The Muscleman Bergevin would have had the cojones to just put JS on line 1.


His record development speaks for itself!
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Oct. 5, 2022 at 7:38 a.m.
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To paraphrase St. Louis, "Wins don't always come on the scoresheet"

The development of Dach is important, especially as a center, I would personally like to see him with Drouin and Gallagher.


Putting up 0.75 pts/game at any position has got to be his priority. If he plays Center this year and is below 0.5 pts/game the pressure will be enormous.
Oct. 5, 2022 at 7:47 a.m.
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Monahan's not going to play wing. He will likely be 2C if anywhere
Oct. 5, 2022 at 7:48 a.m.
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I just dont think any lineup with Drouin is built to last or is reliable. And if this is a rebuild, then I'd rather go with development and work with guys who will be around for more than the 22-23 season. Obviously those guys have to play but I'd put them on the 3rd line or less.

I'd go

Caulfield-Suzuki-Anderson (need some size with those 2)
Dvorak-Dach-Gallagher
Drouin-Monahan-Armia
Hoffman/Pitlick-Evans-Dadanov

guys like hoffman/dandanov/drouin aren;t here for a rebuild and I'd be looking to move them, I'd rather a 4th line of even mid-talent young guys learning...Watched PHI-NYI the other night and while PHI lack top end guys, they have a real good mix of guys like cates, tippett, frost, allison, laczyzinski, foerster, attard, york, zamula fighting for spots, spots that aren;t taken.
Oct. 5, 2022 at 8:41 a.m.
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Monahan's not going to play wing. He will likely be 2C if anywhere


If he can handle it, I'm all for it. So far I think Dvorak has shown more, but Monahan only played 1 game. Monahan at 2C means we can expect a 1st for him at the TDL ... Which makes this the best possible outcome.
Oct. 5, 2022 at 8:48 a.m.
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I just dont think any lineup with Drouin is built to last or is reliable. And if this is a rebuild, then I'd rather go with development and work with guys who will be around for more than the 22-23 season. Obviously those guys have to play but I'd put them on the 3rd line or less.

I'd go

Caulfield-Suzuki-Anderson (need some size with those 2)
Dvorak-Dach-Gallagher
Drouin-Monahan-Armia
Hoffman/Pitlick-Evans-Dadanov

guys like hoffman/dandanov/drouin aren;t here for a rebuild and I'd be looking to move them, I'd rather a 4th line of even mid-talent young guys learning...Watched PHI-NYI the other night and while PHI lack top end guys, they have a real good mix of guys like cates, tippett, frost, allison, laczyzinski, foerster, attard, york, zamula fighting for spots, spots that aren;t taken.


I thought Dadonov would be a more complete player but between Hoffman, Dadonov, and Drouin throughout camp, Drouin has been the only player who has done any consistent back-checking.

I would rather see Hoffman and Dadonov off the team and play RHP, Ylonen, or Pezzetta but I rarely get what I want in hockey.
Oct. 5, 2022 at 8:50 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Monahan's not going to play wing. He will likely be 2C if anywhere


Curious... Do you think Monahan could not handle playing wing with those guys or that he would be upset to be moved to the wing?
Oct. 5, 2022 at 9:05 a.m.
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Curious... Do you think Monahan could not handle playing wing with those guys or that he would be upset to be moved to the wing?


He's just not very good at wing. He's far better down the middle. At least in Calgary he was, even the last 2 years
Oct. 5, 2022 at 9:10 a.m.
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He's just not very good at wing. He's far better down the middle. At least in Calgary he was, even the last 2 years


Not something you hear often that a Center cannot handle the wing. Not trolling here, genuinely curious, can you elaborate on why?
Oct. 5, 2022 at 9:57 a.m.
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Not something you hear often that a Center cannot handle the wing. Not trolling here, genuinely curious, can you elaborate on why?


He just looks really out of place on the wing. Calgary tried him there a couple times and it didn't work well
Oct. 5, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.
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Not something you hear often that a Center cannot handle the wing. Not trolling here, genuinely curious, can you elaborate on why?


its not uncommon, Kadri stunk on the wing as well, some players are just more comfortable playing the middle of the ice
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He just looks really out of place on the wing. Calgary tried him there a couple times and it didn't work well


Could it have been the injuries though?
Oct. 5, 2022 at 11:59 a.m.
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its not uncommon, Kadri stunk on the wing as well, some players are just more comfortable playing the middle of the ice


I don't really get it. Not saying I don't believe you, but obviously most player's who have played Center have played on the wing throughout their careers. Even if you have defense-first instincts, it still should be easier having less responsibility.

Not saying I don't believe you, but I don't believe it's "common-knowledge" that this is a thing.
Oct. 5, 2022 at 12:05 p.m.
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I don't really get it. Not saying I don't believe you, but obviously most player's who have played Center have played on the wing throughout their careers. Even if you have defense-first instincts, it still should be easier having less responsibility.

Not saying I don't believe you, but I don't believe it's "common-knowledge" that this is a thing.


didnt say its common knowledge, I said its not uncommon for a C to look worse at the Wing. It does hamper their playing style, especially depending on how a team transitions in the neutral zone. Kadri prefers to drive zone entries, as the avs D or Wingers will break out of their zone with their skating, hitting the C with speed.

If hes the 2nd or 3rd man into the zone and they are not used to set up/position in the offensive zone, it can be quite uncomfortable as its not in their nature. This is just one example of one player.
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Oct. 5, 2022 at 12:17 p.m.
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Could it have been the injuries though?


Nah he just looked really out of place, lost in a way. He's also one of Montreal's better faceoff guys so it would be best to keep him in the middle for that reason. Give him some faster wingers and he will be just fine
Oct. 5, 2022 at 1:47 p.m.
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Putting up 0.75 pts/game at any position has got to be his priority. If he plays Center this year and is below 0.5 pts/game the pressure will be enormous.


While I agree, the fans and media can be detrimental.

Dach is 21, and on a 4 year $3.3M deal, if he puts up 41 points, given his previous high was 26 in 70gp, that's a win.

The purpose of St-louis' comment was, he wants to see players develop, grow, and reach their potential.

Dach scoring 65 points but being terrible defensively isn't a win long term for the team and just satisfies the people who read the boxscore and those who think +/- is a relevant stat to quote.
 
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