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P-O Joseph to Tampa Ian Cole situation

Created by: Tourangeau
Published: Oct. 11, 2022 at 12:01 p.m.
Salary Cap: $82,500,000
Season Days: 184/185 (99%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Pittsburgh PenguinsPittsburgh Penguins

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Friedman, MarkPittsburgh PenguinsMinor-$0011---0000--
Joseph, Pierre-OlivierPittsburgh PenguinsNHL-$820,541011---0000--
2024 3rd round pick (Logo of the Pittsburgh PenguinsPIT)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Howard, IsaacTampa Bay LightningReserve List-$0001---------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$83,1582245613613
Change$820,541-1-2-10-10
Final$903,699 (↑)21 (↓)43 (↓)60 (↓)35 (↓)13000

Logo of the Tampa Bay LightningTampa Bay Lightning

Coincident TransactionInitial StatusNew StatusCap Hit ChangeRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Labrie, Pierre-CédricNHLMinor-$770,800-1-----------
Fortier, GabrielNHLMinor-$791,667-1-----------
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Howard, IsaacTampa Bay LightningReserve List-$0001---------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Friedman, MarkPittsburgh PenguinsMinor-$0011---0000--
Joseph, Pierre-OlivierPittsburgh PenguinsNHL-$825,000011---0000--
2024 3rd round pick (Logo of the Pittsburgh PenguinsPIT)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$02048681513
Change$737,467-121010
Final$737,467 (↑)19 (↓)50 (↑)69 (↑)16 (↑)13000
Oct. 11, 2022 at 12:40 p.m.
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Tbh this doesnt make any sense for PIT
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Oct. 11, 2022 at 1:07 p.m.
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Why Pittsburgh don’t have Space to add a NHL player and wich player can You add at 800k that will be better than the 12 forwards and the 6 deffenders right now. Don’t Forget that not a lot of team need a 6-7 deffender right now.
Oct. 11, 2022 at 2:09 p.m.
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Is that their first round pick from this summer?? Tampa wouldn't do that. Just try and move POJ for a 3rd or 4th if you have no interest keeping him.
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Oct. 11, 2022 at 3:33 p.m.
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P-O is a 21 overall pick why exchange him for a third pick.
Yes maybe if You redo the draft He will be a second rounder but his value are more than that. The reason why Pittsburgh want to exchange him is because He is ready for the NHL but Pittsburgh have 7 deffender better than him. Maybe a team who need a deffender should do a trade.
Oct. 11, 2022 at 4:18 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 11, 2022 at 4:33 p.m.
Quoting: Tourangeau
P-O is a 21 overall pick why exchange him for a third pick.
Yes maybe if You redo the draft He will be a second rounder but his value are more than that. The reason why Pittsburgh want to exchange him is because He is ready for the NHL but Pittsburgh have 7 deffender better than him. Maybe a team who need a deffender should do a trade.


He was drafted 5 years ago! Being the 23rd overall pick means nothing anymore. He has only played 20 games at the NHL level and doesn't project to be much more than a bottom pair guy with some offensive ability. A 3rd round pick is probably generous at this point for him.
Oct. 11, 2022 at 5:42 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 11, 2022 at 5:49 p.m.
Quoting: Tourangeau
P-O is a 21 overall pick why exchange him for a third pick.
Yes maybe if You redo the draft He will be a second rounder but his value are more than that. The reason why Pittsburgh want to exchange him is because He is ready for the NHL but Pittsburgh have 7 deffender better than him. Maybe a team who need a deffender should do a trade.



Yeah where you were drafted really means nothing to Your value 5 years later. TB is REALLY HIGH on Howard not happening.
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Oct. 11, 2022 at 11:03 p.m.
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So P-O won’t be trade.
I don’t know why You don’t believe in him.
Recently Rilley stillman 24 years old 100 NHL game trade for a second round in 2024 and Jason dickinson.
Jack Mcbain 22 years old 0 NHL game was trade for a second round.
Jeremy Lauzon 25 years old 150 NHL game was trade for a second round.
Tell me that P-O Joseph value are at the best a third round pick. If that is the case Ron Hextall won’t trade him because he is better than that.
Oct. 11, 2022 at 11:22 p.m.
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He was drafted 5 years ago! Being the 23rd overall pick means nothing anymore. He has only played 20 games at the NHL level and doesn't project to be much more than a bottom pair guy with some offensive ability. A 3rd round pick is probably generous at this point for him.

Yhea that’s the point He don’t play in the NHL because he is in Pittsburgh. If PO was with coyotes the last 2-3 years he play in the top 4 this year.
Pittsburgh are in the best team in the league for developpement. The Penguins rookie arrive in the NHL at 22-23 years old.
Exemple: Sheary-rust-Guentzel-Bluegers-archibald-dumoulin-ZAR-Letang
So maybe like you said at 23 he is a flop but I don’t believe in that. Give him a chance. Rust play his best hockey since is 27 years old before that nobody believe that He could be a Top 6 players.
 
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