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Created by: Jwalker5121

Team: 2022-23 Arizona Coyotes

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 19, 2022

Published: Oct. 19, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

ARI

Simmonds, Wayne
Voit, Ty
2023 1st round pick (TOR)

TOR

Gostisbehere, Shayne ($2,000,000 retained)

ARI

Pinto, Shane
2023 1st round pick (OTT)
2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
2025 2nd round pick (OTT)

Additional Details:

2023 1st top 10 Protected
2025 2nd for retaining salary

OTT

Chychrun, Jakob ($2,300,000 retained)

Retained Salary Transactions

Oliver Ekman-Larsson: $990,000 (12%)
Shayne Gostisbehere: $2,000,000 (44.44%)
Jakob Chychrun: $2,300,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$61,683,792	$0	$2,332,500	$20,816,208

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Crouse, Lawson $4,300,000$4,300,000 LW, RW UFA - 5	Schmaltz, Nick $5,850,000$5,850,000 RW, C UFA - 4	Keller, Clayton $7,150,000$7,150,000 LW, RW UFA - 6
Ritchie, Nick $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW UFA - 1	Pinto, Shane $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) C RFA - 1	Guenther, Dylan $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 3
Maccelli, Matias $853,333$853,333 LW RFA - 1	Hayton, Barrett $1,775,000$1,775,000 C, LW RFA - 2	Simmonds, Wayne $900,000$900,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
O'Brien, Liam $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Boyd, Travis $1,750,000$1,750,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Kassian, Zack $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Nemeth, Patrik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Brown, Joshua $1,275,000$1,275,000 RD UFA - 2	Vejmelka, Karel $2,725,000$2,725,000 G UFA - 3
Välimäki, Juuso $1,550,000$1,550,000 LD RFA - 1	Stecher, Troy $1,250,000$1,250,000 RD UFA - 1	Ingram, Connor $733,333$733,333 G UFA - 1
Moser, J.J. $886,667$886,667 ($32,500$32K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Mayo, Dysin $950,000$950,000 RD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
McBain, Jack $883,750$883,750 ($850,000$850K) C, LW RFA - 1	Ladd, Andrew $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Timmins, Conor $850,000$850,000 RD RFA - 1	Little, Bryan $5,291,667$5,291,667 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 2
Fischer, Christian $1,125,875$1,125,875 RW, LW UFA - 1

Oct. 19, 2022 at 5:53 p.m.

Alfie11

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if ottawa was willing to trade pinto, chychrun would already be a senator

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Oct. 19, 2022 at 5:54 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Arizona isn't retaining.

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Oct. 19, 2022 at 5:56 p.m.

SadSensFan14

Why Green

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Arizona isn't retaining.

And why not?

Quoting: Alfie11

if ottawa was willing to trade pinto, chychrun would already be a senator

Yeah.

Oct. 19, 2022 at 6:04 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: OutDoorRinkBoy

And why not?
Yeah.

How many teams have ever retained 50% on a fair to good value contract with three years of term on it?

Ottawa wouldn't trade Pinto anyway.

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Oct. 19, 2022 at 6:08 p.m.

SadSensFan14

Why Green

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

How many teams have ever retained 50% on a fair to good value contract with three years of term on it?

Ottawa wouldn't trade Pinto anyway.

Yeah your right we wouldn’t. Sorry ig I didn’t realize he still had 3 years in his contract.

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Oct. 19, 2022 at 6:14 p.m.

Xspyrit

Joined: Jul. 2016

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Pinto = automatic decline (same for Greig)

Ottawa has Chabot, Zub and now Sanderson joining the team and adding a lot to the defense. But not only that, Brannstrom is breaking out and looks fantastic so far.

Then there's several good young projects like JBD, Kleven, Thomson, Hamara, Nordberg, etc.

Holden and Hamonic are not awful 3rd pairing stop gaps.

The need for Chychrun is shrinking by the day, Sens have the luxury to "wait it out"

Counter :

Zaitsev, Nikita
Thomson, Lassi
Sokolov, Egor
2023 1st round pick (OTT)
2024 2nd round pick (OTT)

Oct. 19, 2022 at 6:15 p.m.

Jwalker5121

Thread Starter

Kipper99

Joined: Jul. 2021

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

How many teams have ever retained 50% on a fair to good value contract with three years of term on it?

Yotes need to make cap floor. only way they can do it is to retain, Pinto is good but the sens have a log jam forming at F and everyone else is extended. it makes sense for Ottawa cause they need the D help and paying a top 4 man 2.25m for 3 years is a great deal. Arizona wants to suck and get young players, If retaining helps both those goals, they would do it

Oct. 19, 2022 at 6:25 p.m.

Jwalker5121

Thread Starter

Kipper99

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Quoting: Xspyrit

My thought on it was. The sens top 6 for the next 4 years is set. Especially at C making a luxury. unless you want to waist his potential playing as a 3C. Move him when his value is high

Oct. 19, 2022 at 6:31 p.m.

JaredOfLondon

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the leafs arnt spending a 1st on a near 30 year old offensive defender who is a pending UFA that they dont even remotly need

Oct. 19, 2022 at 6:42 p.m.

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Jwalker5121

Thread Starter

Kipper99

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

the leafs arnt spending a 1st on a near 30 year old offensive defender who is a pending UFA that they dont even remotly need

They paid a 1st for Nick foligno and gave up a first for their backup to play on a different team. They would pay this for a guy who would have been 2nd in leaf's D scoring last season

Oct. 19, 2022 at 6:46 p.m.

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: Jwalker5121

They paid a 1st for Nick foligno and gave up a first for their backup to play on a different team. They would pay this for a guy who would have been 2nd in leaf's D scoring last season

Nick Foligno was a defensive forward who could score and provide depth. They over paid for him (and he got immediately hurt) but it was still a need.
They didnt give up a 1st to move Mrazek, they moved back in the draft like 10 spots or whatever to move mrazek, and they did that because they needed cap space and he was hurt all the time.
They would not trade it for a guy they simply do not need because they dont need defencemen at all.

Oct. 19, 2022 at 6:58 p.m.

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kingjrb92

Painsince67

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Quoting: Jwalker5121

They paid a 1st for Nick foligno and gave up a first for their backup to play on a different team. They would pay this for a guy who would have been 2nd in leaf's D scoring last season

Dubas has since made it clear that he's not spending a first on rentals

Oct. 19, 2022 at 7:03 p.m.

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Xspyrit

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Quoting: Jwalker5121

My thought on it was. The sens top 6 for the next 4 years is set. Especially at C making a luxury. unless you want to waist his potential playing as a 3C. Move him when his value is high

ok you have the right to have your own ideas but that's clearly not the Sens plan with Pinto. Norris is signed for 8 years and Stutzle for 9 years. These 3 guys will be here for the foreseeable future

Oct. 19, 2022 at 7:05 p.m.

#14

MisstheWhalers

Joined: Jan. 2019

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Quoting: Jwalker5121

Retaining is the only way they can hit the cap floor??..

Sorry but the "hitting the cap floor" narrative is one of the dumbest ones on here, they can sign some guys or take someone's LTIR problem for free or take back a UFA to make the cap floor.

Theres a multitude of ways to hit the cap floor that doesn't involve retaining 50% for three seasons on Chycrun.

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