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Horvat and OEL

Created by: ethanwinters
Team: 2022-23 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 25, 2022
Published: Oct. 25, 2022
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Not sure if I even like it from Boston, POV or Vancouver.
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22$82,500,000$80,490,834$0$4,732,500$2,009,166
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Oct. 25, 2022 at 7:56 a.m.
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Absolutely no chance Canucks would retain salary on OEL for 5 years
Oct. 25, 2022 at 8:05 a.m.
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Please delete this.
VAN isn’t retaining on OEL for 5 years for this package lol. M Reilly was on waivers for free just weeks ago lol
Oct. 25, 2022 at 8:09 a.m.
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Two players the bruins have absolutely no interest in, for one player thats part of their core group. Really bad idea.
Oct. 25, 2022 at 8:22 a.m.
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Quoting: KDev
Absolutely no chance Canucks would retain salary on OEL for 5 years


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VAN isn’t retaining on OEL for 5 years for this package lol. M Reilly was on waivers for free just weeks ago lol


I disagree with the value on this 100000%. But, if the canucks want to get rid of OEL then they might have to. I do not know if they want to, but if they were to dump this deal then they might have to retain or just wait 2-3 years and then pay to dump.
Oct. 25, 2022 at 9:27 a.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Two players the bruins have absolutely no interest in, for one player thats part of their core group. Really bad idea.


Why would then not have interest in Horvat? Bergeron and Krejci are old and it’s not like they have any other Centers in the pipeline that would be in the top 6. Of any team needs a younger top 6 C it’s the Bruins
Oct. 25, 2022 at 9:28 a.m.
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Boston does not even consider this.
Oct. 25, 2022 at 9:41 a.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
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VAN isn’t retaining on OEL for 5 years for this package lol. M Reilly was on waivers for free just weeks ago lol


The only reason Reilly was on waivers was to get under the cap. Someone had to be. Had nothing to do with his value. It was purely a paper transaction. If someone took him oh well, solved the cap problem and they have to many d men anyway. Would have sucked to lose him for nothing but it would not have hurt them either.

Only 8 teams could have taken him. Only 2 that had a spot for him. 1 really should have claimed him. A couple of teams wanted to but did not have the cap.

OEL is not the player he once was. Still better than Reilly. But i’d much rather have Reilly when contracts are factored in.

This a bad deal for both teams. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Oct. 25, 2022 at 9:45 a.m.
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Why would then not have interest in Horvat? Bergeron and Krejci are old and it’s not like they have any other Centers in the pipeline that would be in the top 6. Of any team needs a younger top 6 C it’s the Bruins


What do krejci, bergeron, and horvat all have in common? They’re centers who are UFAs at the end of the season. No need for the player now, no guarantee they would retain his services for the future. Thats why.
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Oct. 25, 2022 at 9:58 a.m.
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Completely brutal for vancouver
Oct. 25, 2022 at 10:19 a.m.
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Quoting: Gofnut999
The only reason Reilly was on waivers was to get under the cap. Someone had to be. Had nothing to do with his value. It was purely a paper transaction. If someone took him oh well, solved the cap problem and they have to many d men anyway. Would have sucked to lose him for nothing but it would not have hurt them either.

Only 8 teams could have taken him. Only 2 that had a spot for him. 1 really should have claimed him. A couple of teams wanted to but did not have the cap.

OEL is not the player he once was. Still better than Reilly. But i’d much rather have Reilly when contracts are factored in.

This a bad deal for both teams. 🤷🏻‍♂️


It doesn’t matter why he was put on waivers, the point is he was available to all 31 other teams, at no cost other than his cap hit, and there were no takers.
Oct. 25, 2022 at 10:55 a.m.
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Honestly, this is a trade I could realistically see both teams doing and causing a nuclear meltdown on both fanbases. I wouldn't blame them, i can see it screwing over both of them.
Oct. 25, 2022 at 11:04 a.m.
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Quoting: YukariIsBestGirl
Honestly, this is a trade I could realistically see both teams doing and causing a nuclear meltdown on both fanbases. I wouldn't blame them, i can see it screwing over both of them.


Honestly, this is a trade i couldn’t see either team even considering for a second.
Oct. 25, 2022 at 12:02 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
It doesn’t matter why he was put on waivers, the point is he was available to all 31 other teams, at no cost other than his cap hit, and there were no takers.



Again not true but not true. There were teams that wanted to, did not have the cap space. Montreal included.

23 teams did not have the ability to claim him due to cap. So saying 31 passed on him is not really accurate. 8 teams did pass on him. 6 of them did not have any need at all for him. So in essence 2 teams passed on him. 1 of them is tanking. The only team left was Detroit. It was barely in upgrade for them and they have better ways to use the extra cap space.

You rarely see a player claimed with a cap hit and term, it’s usually a roster filler, failed prospect, league minimum type.

The tanking team should have. They flip him at the deadline for a pick, free asset. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Oct. 25, 2022 at 12:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Again not true but not true. There were teams that wanted to, did not have the cap space. Montreal included.

23 teams did not have the ability to claim him due to cap. So saying 31 passed on him is not really accurate. 8 teams did pass on him. 6 of them did not have any need at all for him. So in essence 2 teams passed on him. 1 of them is tanking. The only team left was Detroit. It was barely in upgrade for them and they have better ways to use the extra cap space.

You rarely see a player claimed with a cap hit and term, it’s usually a roster filler, failed prospect, league minimum type.

The tanking team should have. They flip him at the deadline for a pick, free asset. 🤷🏻‍♂️


The teams that wanted him but couldn’t claim them could’ve simply placed another player on waivers to make up the space no? Maybe throw someone on LTIR?

You can’t say 8 teams passed on him and another 6 didn’t want him then proceed to use him as a trade chip to net Horvat and retained OEL lol. It doesn’t add up
Oct. 25, 2022 at 12:14 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
The teams that wanted him but couldn’t claim them could’ve simply placed another player on waivers to make up the space no? Maybe throw someone on LTIR?


Depends on the team. It’s a stretch to save a bad take. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Oct. 25, 2022 at 3:45 p.m.
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Quoting: NV94
Why would then not have interest in Horvat? Bergeron and Krejci are old and it’s not like they have any other Centers in the pipeline that would be in the top 6. Of any team needs a younger top 6 C it’s the Bruins


Horvat can be signed as UFA instead of trading a big return. Second, he'll be 28 at the end of the season and will not fit in the Bruins timeline as they will need to rebuild. Any top6 C under 25yo is not interesting as he will regress by the time Bruins are contenders again.

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It doesn’t matter why he was put on waivers, the point is he was available to all 31 other teams, at no cost other than his cap hit, and there were no takers.


With this argument, Oliver Kylington is useless because he was waived and nobody claimed him, right? Also, Horvat is a pending UFA and OEL still has negative value at a $5.86M cap hit.
Oct. 25, 2022 at 4:00 p.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Horvat can be signed as UFA instead of trading a big return. Second, he'll be 28 at the end of the season and will not fit in the Bruins timeline as they will need to rebuild. Any top6 C under 25yo is not interesting as he will regress by the time Bruins are contenders again.



With this argument, Oliver Kylington is useless because he was waived and nobody claimed him, right? Also, Horvat is a pending UFA and OEL still has negative value at a $5.86M cap hit.


Are you referencing Kylington being placed on waivers back in Jan 2021 as the comparison here?
Oct. 25, 2022 at 4:08 p.m.
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Are you referencing Kylington being placed on waivers back in Jan 2021 as the comparison here?


Yes, he was on waivers and 30 teams passed on him, it must mean something.
Oct. 25, 2022 at 4:19 p.m.
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Yes, he was on waivers and 30 teams passed on him, it must mean something.


It’s a completely different scenario being placed on waivers before season start vs in January. By January your roster is already dialed in and you’re counting pennys of cap space. Much harder to accommodate a waiver claim
Oct. 25, 2022 at 4:51 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
It’s a completely different scenario being placed on waivers before season start vs in January. By January your roster is already dialed in and you’re counting pennys of cap space. Much harder to accommodate a waiver claim


He was placed on waivers on January 11, 2021. The season began on January 13, 2021. Mike Reilly was placed on waivers on October 10 and season started on October 12 (excluding NSH/SJS games). Both were placed on waivers two days before the season. Kylington had a $787,5K cap hit which is near league minimum and had potential to grow (which he did).

The main point is using waivers claims as an argument of a player's value is flawed as Reilly was not unclaimed because of his level of play but all contending teams were close to the cap or used LTIR. Teams will accrue more cap space as the season goes or place more players on LTIR and Bruins should be able to find a taker for Reilly in the event they want to trade him.
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Oct. 25, 2022 at 5:05 p.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
He was placed on waivers on January 11, 2021. The season began on January 13, 2021. Mike Reilly was placed on waivers on October 10 and season started on October 12 (excluding NSH/SJS games). Both were placed on waivers two days before the season. Kylington had a $787,5K cap hit which is near league minimum and had potential to grow (which he did).

The main point is using waivers claims as an argument of a player's value is flawed as Reilly was not unclaimed because of his level of play but all contending teams were close to the cap or used LTIR. Teams will accrue more cap space as the season goes or place more players on LTIR and Bruins should be able to find a taker for Reilly in the event they want to trade him.


Right, shortened season, got it.
 
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