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Marner needs to be humbled

Created by: Logan_Ollivier
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 31, 2022
Published: Oct. 31, 2022
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This is assuming Muzzin calls it a career. Anaheim is poised to get a good crack at Bedard and with him, Marner and the rest of the young guns could be a dynamic team quickly so long as they either add the right FA defenceman next year or trade for one or see Drysdale and others take big steps. Hopefully find a goalie along the way. Ducks would be a contender in 3 years.

This would change the entire dynamic in TO but perhaps for the best. I think Marner is a leader on the team but he's just so fragile that it rubs off on guys. I think he'll figure it out eventually but it's causing too many problems right now. Muzzin retires we need to make some moves on defence. So we get Fowler who really is a solid solid player that can play either side well. That solidifies the defence and gives Holl a chance to regroup and play where he should which is sparingly on the 3rd pair or 7th defenceman. We'll need him at some point and it's going to just cost too much to get a marginal improvement over him. Fowler is the big add and we end up with better depth than last year.

Yes the offence will take a hit but maybe they force themselves to change their system a little, be smarter with your risks and wait for chances to transition. Score less but give up way less and Matthews will still score a pile of goals. I think it puts a little more pressure on Nylander who will need to step up to fill the void left by Marner. You take a flyer on comtois hoping he just needed a change of scenery and maybe you find just a better style of play.

This for fire Keefe. If Dubas won't, then it has to be him. I feel like that's a mistake but it's going to come to a breaking point.
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Oct. 31, 2022 at 8:28 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Fill me in, what was this Marner meltdown about?.. lol


Keefe singled him out during the timeout for playing badly, Keefe benched Marner, Marner went down the tunnel to have a temper tantrum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDTWLfrUsg&ab_channel=SteveDangle
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Oct. 31, 2022 at 8:53 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Fill me in, what was this Marner meltdown about?.. lol


He playing bad and he seems to be a distraction. Keefe had to walk back criticism because Marner gets hurt by it and then plays worse. He caused 2 goals against last night and had a temper tantrum on the ice. He needs to grow up, he's always been the one that worried me the most. He's a terrific player and I think he'll figure it out eventually but I am not sure it's going to be in TO.

Unless that start playing well immediately and put this behind them, something is going to have to be done. Either a big trade, Dubas fires Keefe or Shanahan fires Dubas and likely Keefe and really change direction.
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Oct. 31, 2022 at 9:10 p.m.
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I'm all for moving marner but that is not good enough. If a marner happens it would be for the benefit of the team, not to humble Marner.

People seem to be making a big deal about him getting benched. I missed the game so I don't know the reason. But I wish more coaches would have the balls to bench their star players, if the coach feels like a player is not giving it his all than I 100% than I support the coach benching a player.

Hell I wish Keefe would stick Matthews up in the pressbox for a game or 2. I really like Matthews but I think winning the the heart trophy last season has got to his head. He needs to be knock down a few peggs
Nov. 1, 2022 at 7:23 a.m.
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I'm all for moving marner but that is not good enough. If a marner happens it would be for the benefit of the team, not to humble Marner.

People seem to be making a big deal about him getting benched. I missed the game so I don't know the reason. But I wish more coaches would have the balls to bench their star players, if the coach feels like a player is not giving it his all than I 100% than I support the coach benching a player.

Hell I wish Keefe would stick Matthews up in the pressbox for a game or 2. I really like Matthews but I think winning the the heart trophy last season has got to his head. He needs to be knock down a few peggs


Matthews is fine, Marner is the one who needs to sit but I don't think he'll react well to that. He'll sulk and cry and only play worse.
 
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