Can the Wild get a top 10 pick

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Created by: MNCountryClub

Team: 2022-23 Minnesota Wild

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 16, 2022

Published: Nov. 17, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

There's a lot of frustration in the Wild fanbase, which has some ppl asking for a tank. A common response is that the Wild are too good to tank, unless you completely gutted the roster. Homers are saying stay the course, doomers are saying tank.

So the question is - could the Wild attain a top 10 pick without completely gutting the roster? That is, are they bad enough where the MN 1st falls top 10.

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MAF is out at least a week or two
Hartman is out long term
Greenway is clearly hurt and could be shelfed for awhile
Send Rossi down
Ice a 3rd pair of Merrill Goose
Waive or play Jost

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Does the below team finish bottom 10? I think it does.

Trades

MIN

OTT

Dumba, Matt ($3,000,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Using OTT as a placeholder, but can be anyone. Point is just to show Dumba off the roster. Presume some deal is worked out where MN retains 50%.

MIN

COL

Gaudreau, Frédérick

Additional Details:

Again - just using COL as a placeholder. Can be anyone and just assume a fair market price is worked out.

Buyouts

Zach Parise: $6,371,794
Ryan Suter: $6,371,794

Retained Salary Transactions

Matt Dumba: $3,000,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$82,500,000	$76,501,088	$0	$682,500	$5,998,912

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kaprizov, Kirill $9,000,000$9,000,000 LW UFA - 4	Steel, Sam $825,000$825,000 C, LW RFA - 1	Zuccarello, Mats $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Boldy, Matthew $880,833$880,833 ($600,000$600K) RW, LW UFA - 1	Eriksson Ek, Joel $5,250,000$5,250,000 C UFA - 7	Foligno, Marcus $3,100,000$3,100,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Duhaime, Brandon $750,000$750,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Jost, Tyson $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA - 1	Shaw, Mason $750,000$750,000 LW, C RFA - 1
	Dewar, Connor $800,000$800,000 LW, C RFA - 2	Chaffee, Mitchell $750,000$750,000 RW UFA - 1
Beckman, Adam $894,167$894,167 LW RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Middleton, Jake $2,450,000$2,450,000 LD UFA - 3	Spurgeon, Jared $7,575,000$7,575,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Gustavsson, Filip $787,500$787,500 G UFA - 1
Brodin, Jonas $6,000,000$6,000,000 LD NMC UFA - 6	Addison, Calen $795,000$795,000 ($82,500$82K) RD RFA - 1	McIntyre, Zane $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Merrill, Jon $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD UFA - 3	Goligoski, Alex $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD NMC UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Hartman, Ryan $1,700,000$1,700,000 C, RW UFA - 2
	Fleury, Marc-André $3,500,000$3,500,000 G NMC UFA - 2
	Greenway, Jordan $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 3

Nov. 17, 2022 at 12:48 p.m.

MeetYourMakar

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I'm not sure Dumba gets a 1st. If there was a team, maybe the Leafs. Not sure how you would turn those rentals into a top 10 pick. Maybe the best bet is your own pick. If there was an extention with either of those guys then chances would increase.

Nov. 17, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.

MNCountryClub

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Quoting: MeetYourMakar

The premise of this is that the team itself is bad enough where the Wild's 1st is top 10. Not that one of these players returns a top 10.

Neither Dumba nor Gaudreau return a 1st, and most definitely not a top 10 1st.

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Nov. 17, 2022 at 1:52 p.m.

MeetYourMakar

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Quoting: drmantalban

I see. I don't think a top 10 pick is likely this coming draft. I think even doing poorly, Wild will still get a wildcard spot. It's a tough place to be in.

Nov. 17, 2022 at 2:16 p.m.

MNCountryClub

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Quoting: MeetYourMakar

I see. I don't think a top 10 pick is likely this coming draft. I think even doing poorly, Wild will still get a wildcard spot. It's a tough place to be in.

Yeah I think the "problem" is that they eventually will get healthy and when that happens, they probably claw back enough to finish above bottom 10.

I'm not convinced they're a WC team, but they are likely better than bottom 10.

The roster above is pretty dang bad though. If they run this for an extended period of time, they could be bottom 10 come end of DEC.

Nov. 17, 2022 at 2:20 p.m.

wabit

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They can easily self-sabotage themselves by running:
Kap/Jost/Zucc
Boldy/Rossi/Foligno
Greenway/JEE/Hartman
Duhaime/Freddy G/Dewar (Shaw/Steel)

Injuries have hurt the team, but even healthy they have a glaring hole at 1C. It just throws the entire lineup out of whack.

Nov. 17, 2022 at 2:32 p.m.

MNCountryClub

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Quoting: wabit

Do you think they'd finish bottom 10 if they were to run a self-sabotaged type of lineup?

Nov. 17, 2022 at 2:41 p.m.

PhillyDip123

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Quoting: MeetYourMakar

Leafs are full on D. Unless they've suddenly given up on Sandin putting it together they're solid on the right, save for maybe a 3RD. Maybe not even then, Benn's looked pretty good as a 7D.

They've got Rielly - Brodie, Giordano - Liljegren, and Sandin - Holl. There's no need for a #1RD.

Ottawa has the cap and the need for a top RD, if they turn it around by the TDL I think they'd be interested.

Nov. 17, 2022 at 3:26 p.m.

wabit

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Quoting: drmantalban

Do you think they'd finish bottom 10 if they were to run a self-sabotaged type of lineup?

Yep.
-Boldy looks like he hates life when on a line with Foligno.
-Jost and Rossi are o-zone black holes and meh in the d-zone.
-The 3rd line might be too good? So you could swap Duhaime and Hartman.
-This lineup would putting up 2g or less most night.

If you had say Horvat quality 1C then you're 3 to 4 goals a game with this:
Kap/Horvat/Zucc
Greenway/JEE/Boldy (I think this will be better than the GREEF line was)
Foligno/Freddy G/Hartman
Duhaime/Dewar/Shaw (Steel)

The lack of a 1C and Jost/Rossi just sucking the life out of every line they are on is killing a team that could be a contender.

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Nov. 17, 2022 at 4:25 p.m.

MNBassman

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Quoting: wabit

Even at full strength this team is 2-4 players from being a legit Cup contender! 2 of them need to be top 6 forwards, preferably both centers.

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