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Would you make this trade

Created by: lyc4n
Team: 2022-23 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 19, 2022
Published: Nov. 19, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
PIT
  1. Kane, Patrick ($5,250,000 retained)
  2. Toews, Jonathan ($5,250,000 retained)
CHI
  1. Carter, Jeff
  2. Dumoulin, Brian
  3. Kapanen, Kasperi
  4. McGinn, Brock
  5. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
  6. 2023 2nd round pick (PIT)
  7. 2024 1st round pick (PIT)
  8. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$68,187,258$0$400,000$14,312,742
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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-$2,625,000-$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 3
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$2,343,750$2,343,750
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Nov. 19, 2022 at 12:00 p.m.
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A 1st and 2 2nds for the cap dumps of dumo, Carter, and mcginn.
Toews for kap and a 1st.
Kane for free?
Hawks pass.
Kane and toews don't waive for a team that desperately needs a rebuild.
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Nov. 19, 2022 at 12:02 p.m.
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
A 1st and 2 2nds for the cap dumps of dumo, Carter, and mcginn.
Toews for kap and a 1st.
Kane for free?
Hawks pass.
Kane and toews don't waive for a team that desperately needs a rebuild.




The trade is just bad for both sides, don't know what his idea was
Nov. 19, 2022 at 12:04 p.m.
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No.
Nov. 19, 2022 at 12:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Fabi
The trade is just bad for both sides, don't know what his idea was


I just hate when people think they can put their obvious cap dumps into a trade without paying for them. That's not how it works. Can maybe slip dumo in for free since his deal expires this season but a rebuilding team isn't taking on Carter and mcginn for free just cus pit needs the cap space.
Nov. 19, 2022 at 12:22 p.m.
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For the both of you Kane helps on pp on having a right handed shot. Towels work for draws and having him play with rust will work for offense and defense. Now pens can use rust on pk since Kane took his spot in top 6 mins and pp mins. Why it works for Blackhawks next 2 years they have 3 first and 3 seconds plus. Why plus ... One dumo should be trade able at trade dead line even it is 3rd also free up other players what they can get 2nd and 3rds for. Also on pens side if the cap does go up next year that will make 20m in cap space that is a lot cap money to work with.
Nov. 19, 2022 at 12:39 p.m.
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Also trading 21m in cap you have to take back cap to even hit the floor.
Nov. 19, 2022 at 12:54 p.m.
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Also trading 21m in cap you have to take back cap to even hit the floor.


With the Kane and toews retention they'll be above the cap floor already so no they aren't taking back cap dumps for free
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Nov. 19, 2022 at 1:22 p.m.
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Personally I wouldn't touch this trade. I don't think Kane makes us a real contender and it isn't worth waging our future for him
Nov. 19, 2022 at 1:34 p.m.
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For the both of you Kane helps on pp on having a right handed shot. Towels work for draws and having him play with rust will work for offense and defense. Now pens can use rust on pk since Kane took his spot in top 6 mins and pp mins. Why it works for Blackhawks next 2 years they have 3 first and 3 seconds plus. Why plus ... One dumo should be trade able at trade dead line even it is 3rd also free up other players what they can get 2nd and 3rds for. Also on pens side if the cap does go up next year that will make 20m in cap space that is a lot cap money to work with.


It doesn't work for the Hawks. You can't just send cap dumps and expect not to pay the other team for them. Those draft picks MAY get you Kane + Toews, although it's a bit shy honestly...then you just include a bunch of cap dumps for free? Not happening
Nov. 20, 2022 at 2:31 a.m.
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If chi is looking to trade AA and Domi at trade deadline. They will need take back players 1) fill out roster 2) even if they pay 50% of Kane and towes salary then trade AA and Domi witch have less value then the 3 penguins what have no value. That is close to 18m what puts them under cap. But the 1st call up should put them above it.

Now what do you think is Domi and AA value? Are they non trade able at deadline or 4th or 3rd 2nd then look at stats at the pens
 
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