What a Real Rebuild Looks Like

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Created by: SudburyWolves

Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 23, 2022

Published: Nov. 23, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

It’s not just trading Horvat. A rebuild means tearing down the team and moving out contracts over a period of a couple seasons. Trading EP is the real move for a rebuild.

Trades

VAN

Dumba, Matt ($3,000,000 retained)
2023 1st round pick (MIN)
2024 3rd round pick (MIN)

MIN

Horvat, Bo ($2,750,000 retained)
2023 4th round pick (NYR)

VAN

2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
2024 4th round pick (EDM)

EDM

Kuzmenko, Andrei

VAN

Carrier, Alexandre
Johansen, Ryan
Tomasino, Philip
2023 1st round pick (NSH)
2024 2nd round pick (NSH)
2025 2nd round pick (NSH)

NSH

VAN

Alexandrov, Nikita
Scandella, Marco
2024 2nd round pick (STL)
2025 4th round pick (STL)

STL

Garland, Conor

VAN

2023 5th round pick (EDM)
2025 7th round pick (EDM)

EDM

Schenn, Luke

Buyouts

Braden Holtby: $1,900,000
Jake Virtanen: $500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Bo Horvat: $2,750,000 (66.67%)

Buried

Marco Scandella: $2,150,000 ($3,275,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$73,902,500	$1,250,000	$1,420,000	$8,597,500

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Miller, J.T. $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Johansen, Ryan $4,000,000$4,000,000 C, RW UFA - 3	Boeser, Brock $6,650,000$6,650,000 RW UFA - 3
Podkolzin, Vasily $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2	Alexandrov, Nikita $816,667$816,667 ($57,500$58K) C RFA - 2	Mikheyev, Ilya $4,750,000$4,750,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4
Höglander, Nils $891,667$891,667 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW RFA - 1	Lazar, Curtis $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C UFA - 3	Tomasino, Philip $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) LW, RW RFA - 2
Pearson, Tanner $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Dries, Sheldon $762,500$762,500 C UFA - 2	Studnicka, Jack $762,500$762,500 RW, C RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $7,260,000$7,260,000 LD NMC UFA - 5	Dumba, Matt $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Demko, Thatcher $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 4
Hughes, Quinn $7,850,000$7,850,000 LD UFA - 5	Carrier, Alexandre $733,333$733,333 RD UFA - 1	Martin, Spencer $762,500$762,500 G UFA - 2
Stillman, Riley $1,350,000$1,350,000 LD RFA - 2	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Bear, Ethan $1,800,000$1,800,000 RD UFA - 1		Ferland, Micheal $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
Rathbone, Jack $850,000$850,000 LD UFA - 2		Poolman, Tucker $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 3
Joshua, Dakota $825,000$825,000 LW UFA - 2		Dermott, Travis $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Nov. 23, 2022 at 9:09 p.m.

Canucks33

Joined: Dec. 2017

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Trading EP would be stupid.

Nov. 23, 2022 at 9:10 p.m.

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

Joined: Aug. 2022

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Minnesota currently sits at 11th overall, no way are they moving their 2023 1st round pick.

Nov. 23, 2022 at 11:28 p.m.

mokumboi

Joined: Apr. 2019

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As things stand, the Blues can't afford this. But since you have no 23 picks in the trade, feel free to check back next summer.

Nov. 23, 2022 at 11:35 p.m.

Juiceman

Ex Nucks fan

Joined: Jun. 2021

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EP40 trade is horrendous. Absolutely horrid. You have time to delete this

Nov. 24, 2022 at 7:57 a.m.

SudburyWolves

Thread Starter

LeafsStars

Joined: Apr. 2022

Posts: 248

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Quoting: Canucks33

Trading EP would be stupid.

If you don’t do a rebuild then of course it’s stupid but the team is full of dead weight and isn’t going anywhere as constructed.

Nov. 24, 2022 at 7:58 a.m.

SudburyWolves

Thread Starter

LeafsStars

Joined: Apr. 2022

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Quoting: Juiceman

EP40 trade is horrendous. Absolutely horrid. You have time to delete this

If you do a real rebuild that’s the exact kind of trade you’d make. If you want to keep the same stale team together then sure do nothing.

Nov. 24, 2022 at 10:19 a.m.

Juiceman

Ex Nucks fan

Joined: Jun. 2021

Posts: 17,615

Likes: 17,624

Quoting: SudburyWolves

If you do a real rebuild that’s the exact kind of trade you’d make. If you want to keep the same stale team together then sure do nothing.

So we trade Pettersson no value? Johansson has a bad contract. Canucks aren’t even getting a single top caliber piece back. If you bother watching any of the Canucks games, you would know Pettersson is by far our best player. Trading him for the sake of trading him is moronic

Nov. 24, 2022 at 10:29 a.m.

wabit

Joined: May 2016

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Likes: 3,642

Why bother with the retention of Dumba and Horvat. It only equals out to a $250k difference.

Nov. 24, 2022 at 12:54 p.m.

SudburyWolves

Thread Starter

LeafsStars

Joined: Apr. 2022

Posts: 248

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Quoting: Juiceman

You’d be getting two highly touted young players at positions of need, not to mention draft picks.

Nov. 24, 2022 at 3:10 p.m.

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bogdown

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Lets go ahead and trade our generational talent for a bunch of scraps. Oh yeah and ship Schenn out to a team in our division when we could get a second rounder from a team out east. And let's get worse on defence, if that's possible, in a trade for our captain.

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