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Montreal deadline moves

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Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 31, 2022
Published: Dec. 31, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
2.
MTL
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Drouin, Jonathan ($2,750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
25% retained via Arizona for a final AAV of 1.375mil
3.
NYR
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
  2. 2024 7th round pick (EDM)
4.
MTL
  1. Wagner, Austin
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
  3. 2024 1st round pick (LAK)
Additional Details:
2024 1st round (LAK) is Top 10 protected
LAK
  1. Edmundson, Joel ($1,750,000 retained)
  2. Ylönen, Jesse
Additional Details:
Price looks a bit steep but seeing how much Chiarot got for a full rental last year it could be doable
5.
MTL
  1. 2023 5th round pick (TOR)
  2. 2024 7th round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$71,626,665$1,132,500$5,490,000$10,873,335

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 4
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 3
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$875,000$875,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 3
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 1
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Dec. 31, 2022 at 9:47 a.m.
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Dec. 31, 2022 at 11:14 a.m.
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Edmundson has not had a great year, if a team does give up a 1st it won’t be the Kings.
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Dec. 31, 2022 at 12:00 p.m.
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Quoting: tryger
Edmundson has not had a great year, if a team does give up a 1st it won’t be the Kings.


Edmundson had a late start and is surrounded by rookies on a non-contending team. He's also not a pure rental so the price will reflect that.
Whether you want him personally or not, he should perform better than he has shown this year, has the playoff traits GMs always pay for, and may even be "fresher" for an extended playoff run.
Cap hit is also very digestible and retention "might" be an option (depending on return).
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Dec. 31, 2022 at 12:07 p.m.
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Quoting: ricochetii
Edmundson had a late start and is surrounded by rookies on a non-contending team. He's also not a pure rental so the price will reflect that.
Whether you want him personally or not, he should perform better than he has shown this year, has the playoff traits GMs always pay for, and may even be "fresher" for an extended playoff run.
Cap hit is also very digestible and retention "might" be an option (depending on return).



Asking price for Gavrikov is a 1st and 3rd, his play reflects that on a poor team, Edmundson has not in my opinion. If Blake spent a 1st on Edmundson I’d think he lost that trade.
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Dec. 31, 2022 at 12:28 p.m.
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Asking price for Gavrikov is a 1st and 3rd, his play reflects that on a poor team, Edmundson has not in my opinion. If Blake spent a 1st on Edmundson I’d think he lost that trade.


He does seem to be shaping up to be the top D traded this year at the deadline, but only 1 team can get him. If Edmundson is plan B (remains to be seen, but it's a possibility), there will be a market for him of teams that missed out on the top choice. Manson went for roughly two 2nds while Chiarot netted a 1st and a prospect last year.
We know those rugged defense types fetch a premium every year, so expectations should take that into consideration.
Dec. 31, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: ricochetii
He does seem to be shaping up to be the top D traded this year at the deadline, but only 1 team can get him. If Edmundson is plan B (remains to be seen, but it's a possibility), there will be a market for him of teams that missed out on the top choice. Manson went for roughly two 2nds while Chiarot netted a 1st and a prospect last year.
We know those rugged defense types fetch a premium every year, so expectations should take that into consideration.


But are the Kings a team that looks to be paying premiums, The Kings failing to make the playoffs is not as big of an issue as it is for the Knights, Flames and Oilers. If I’m Blake I’m trying to get a bigger fish to be a permanent fixture at 2LD, to me I’d rather pay more and get Chychrun or Gavrikov. If those two are gone, we’ll just pay a 3rd or 4th for Maata who knows the Kings system and has played better than Edmundson. There just isn’t a fit unless it’s Walker for Edmundson straight up.
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Dec. 31, 2022 at 2:41 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 31, 2022 at 2:48 p.m.. Reason: corrected typo
Edmundson for a second for Sean Walker, or Edmundson with 50% retention for Walker and a third, are deals that make sense for Los Angeles. Trading our 2023 or 2024 first for Edmundson would be Rob Blake's first big mistake as Los Angeles GM.

FYI (and for the information of all Montreal fans trying to construct trades with the Kings), we don't need forward prospects at any of the three positions. We have one of the top three prospect pools in the league right now.
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Dec. 31, 2022 at 2:46 p.m.
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Quoting: tryger
Edmundson has not had a great year, if a team does give up a 1st it won’t be the Kings.


Its pretty clear he's getting a 1st at this point. The Habs arent moving him without it. The denial is so much like Lehkonen and Chiarot last year. Both got better returns than expected here by a long shot. Albeit this draft class is quite unique but theres no way Habs trade a guy like Edmundson without a top flight prospect at the least. They are super young on D with 3 D in the top5 of rookie D scoring which is almost unheard of and team managers drool over Edmundson every time he makes a dirty hit much like Pronger back in the day
Dec. 31, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Its pretty clear he's getting a 1st at this point. The Habs arent moving him without it. The denial is so much like Lehkonen and Chiarot last year. Both got better returns than expected here by a long shot. Albeit this draft class is quite unique but theres no way Habs trade a guy like Edmunson without a top flight prospect at the least. They are super young on D with 3 D in the top5 of rookie D scoring which is almost unheard of and teams managers drool over Edmundson everytime he makes a dirty hit much like Pronger back in the day


I hope you do get it, but keep in mind the only time Blake has traded a 1st it was for Fiala. I don’t see the fit at that price for the Kings personally, also Chiarot wasn’t much of a difference maker and I think Florida fans wouldn’t make that trade in retrospect.
Dec. 31, 2022 at 2:52 p.m.
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I hope you do get it, but keep in mind the only time Blake has traded a 1st it was for Fiala. I don’t see the fit at that price for the Kings personally, also Chiarot wasn’t much of a difference maker and I think Florida fans wouldn’t make that trade in retrospect.


Means nothing. Teams dont focus on the low end but the high end. You are trying to win the cup which means you look for assets that can put you over the top not assets that can fail. Many trades have failed that doesnt mean GMs stop making trades without risk/reward. You have 32 teams in the league. Florida not advancing past the 2nd round isnt an indication of anything.
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Means nothing. Teams dont focus on the low end but the high end. You are trying to win the cup which means you look for assets that can put you over the top not assets that can fail. Many trades have failed that doesnt mean GMs stop making trades without risk/reward. You have 32 teams in the league. Florida not advancing past the 2nd round isnt an indication of anything.


Oh I’m aware of what teams must sacrifice for a cup, but to the Kings patience has paid dividends, Edmundson isn’t the best defenseman on a team of rookies, to me that is not a player worth a 1st. If the Kings paid it, I’d think Blake got ripped off, and I think most Montreal fans will feel they fleeced the team who gave up a 1st for him.
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Oh I’m aware of what teams must sacrifice for a cup, but to the Kings patience has paid dividends, Edmundson isn’t the best defenseman on a team of rookies, to me that is not a player worth a 1st. If the Kings paid it, I’d think Blake got ripped off, and I think most Montreal fans will feel they fleeced the team who gave up a 1st for him.


We all know Edmundson isnt worth a 1st in the end but you sacrifice later for today which is in a nutshell the Iginla for Nieuwendyk trade. At a certain point if you have so many prospects and picks they arent worth the same to you as others. Mtl simply has too many picks this draft and prospects coming they wont settle for anything but a 1st or high end prospect. There will be a team that gives up a 1st for Eddy as he meets the window like McDrai. Its the same as the Pittsburgh model. You dont need 1st rounders in the Crosby/Malkin era. You go for it then tank later on.

The worst you can do is be average in this league like the Canucks. Who btw really regret letting go of Edler. That dressing room is a mess with JT Miller leading the way and Edler/Sedins gone.
Dec. 31, 2022 at 3:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
We all know Edmundson isnt worth a 1st in the end but you sacrifice later for today which is in a nutshell the Iginla for Nieuwendyk trade. At a certain point if you have so many prospects and picks they arent worth the same to you as others. Mtl simply has too many picks this draft and prospects coming they wont settle for anything but a 1st or high end prospect. There will be a team that gives up a 1st for Eddy as he meets the window like McDrai. Its the same as the Pittsburgh model. You dont need 1st rounders in the Crosby/Malkin era. You go for it then tank later on.

The worst you can do is be average in this league like the Canucks. Who btw really regret letting go of Edler. That dressing room is a mess with JT Miller leading the way and Edler/Sedins gone.


Yeah man, that’s what I’ve been saying. Hope you guys get the first, but it won’t be from a team like the Kings. We just left our rebuild, and the type of defenseman we need should be younger and more skilled, the Kings are leaning closer to Chychrun than any of the available defensemen on the market right now. Someone will overpay for Edmundson, but I’d be willing to bet it won’t be the Kings if the price is a 1st, especially since we have the Habs old GM as an assistant to our GM.
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Yeah man, that’s what I’ve been saying. Hope you guys get the first, but it won’t be from a team like the Kings. We just left our rebuild, and the type of defenseman we need should be younger and more skilled, the Kings are leaning closer to Chychrun than any of the available defensemen on the market right now. Someone will overpay for Edmundson, but I’d be willing to bet it won’t be the Kings if the price is a 1st, especially since we have the Habs old GM as an assistant to our GM.


The Kings don't have to be the trade partner, its more of a placeholder for an Edmunsson trade. Teams like Vegas and Edmonton might be a better fit
 
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