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Created by: islesadist
Team: 2022-23 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 4, 2023
Published: Jan. 4, 2023
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Ok vancouver, we're interested
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VAN
  1. Bolduc, Samuel
  2. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
  3. 2024 4th round pick (NYI)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$84,303,296$245,796$1,287,500-$1,803,296
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
C
UFA - 1
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000 (Performance Bonus$750,000$750K)
LW
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
C
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$6,150,000$6,150,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
RFA - 3
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
RFA - 3
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW
UFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
RW
RFA - 2

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Jan. 4, 2023 at 1:20 a.m.
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Islesadist
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Quoting: theleano1
Miller is worth more to the canucks then what the offers where, the canucks arent going to make a trade just to make a trade, has to benfit both teams otherwise we can keep the player


Welp I hope they can afford to keep him them. And honestly, i'm sure the vancouvers front office is looking back on some of those miller packages and are kicking themselves
Jan. 4, 2023 at 1:25 a.m.
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Quoting: islesadist
Welp I hope they can afford to keep him them. And honestly, i'm sure the vancouvers front office is looking back on some of those miller packages and are kicking themselves


I doubt it, no one of them were particularly great, we have the cap space to keep Bo it's just about selling high a player hence him being on the block, don't think there is a huge rush to trade him
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Jan. 4, 2023 at 2:09 a.m.
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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
Hovat should go to the Habs, they have cap space, thanks to Price's retirement and the Habs have been looking for a star center ever since Koivu left.

Suzuki is great, Bedard would be awesome, but Hovat could fit in there.


I agree.
I don’t think it happens, but I think Horvat would be a great fit in MTL. In addition to the the points you’ve made, I think his North/South style and ability in the faceoff circle would compliment Suzuki, and would allow Mtl to protect Dach w/ softer o-zone starts.
Jan. 4, 2023 at 2:45 a.m.
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Trading for horvat would sink the isles in a similar way Milbury did. Barzal is a natural center ,he’s not moving to wing to accommodate a middle 6 center having a great contract year
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Jan. 4, 2023 at 1:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
Trading for horvat would sink the isles in a similar way Milbury did. Barzal is a natural center ,he’s not moving to wing to accommodate a middle 6 center having a great contract year


I agree he’s a natural center, and I tend to think most of issues at the face off dot and in his own zone stem from bad development by Trotz. That being said Barzal has been lighting the lamp a lot recently, and he has played with Cizikas while doing it.
Jan. 4, 2023 at 1:32 p.m.
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I agree he’s a natural center, and I tend to think most of issues at the face off dot and in his own zone stem from bad development by Trotz. That being said Barzal has been lighting the lamp a lot recently, and he has played with Cizikas while doing it.


He loses faceoffs and still dominates possession so who cares. He’s just not good at them , don’t think it has to do with Trotz.

Barzals goal scoring is simply regression to the mean, he was never going to shoot 3% all year when his career average is closer to 10%
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Jan. 4, 2023 at 1:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
He loses faceoffs and still dominates possession so who cares. He’s just not good at them , don’t think it has to do with Trotz.

Barzals goal scoring is simply regression to the mean, he was never going to shoot 3% all year when his career average is closer to 10%


Maybe ur right, but it took Tavares a while to figure it out. His face offs were trending in the right direction for a while, even if he was only taking them on one side last year.
Jan. 4, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
He loses faceoffs and still dominates possession so who cares. He’s just not good at them , don’t think it has to do with Trotz.

Barzals goal scoring is simply regression to the mean, he was never going to shoot 3% all year when his career average is closer to 10%


I agree with you about his shooting percentage regressing to the mean. That being said this whole Cizikas with Barzal experiment seems like it actually works, and it could end up justifying that insanely long contract they gave him.
Jan. 4, 2023 at 1:37 p.m.
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we miss leo k
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Quoting: theleano1
outside of the 1st the package has zero interest to Vancouver, this is barley more than what Foligno got, there is zero reason for Vancouver to do this


i also don't think this is a package that the Canucks jump at, but using the trade that everyone uses to dunk on Kyle Dubas with as a comp is a bit of a stretch. especially when you consider that Foligno cost a 1st/4th/4th when he was double-retained down to $1.375M, and there's no retention going out in this one.
Jan. 4, 2023 at 1:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles5513
I agree with you about his shooting percentage regressing to the mean. That being said this whole Cizikas with Barzal experiment seems like it actually works, and it could end up justifying that insanely long contract they gave him.


I need more than 2 games of cizikas playing well to determine if it’s a good fit. What it also says is cizikas can’t play center anymore because he’s on the decline. There are many players that switch to wing from center later in their careers because they can’t handle the responsibility anymore
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Jan. 4, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.
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I need more than 2 games of cizikas playing well to determine if it’s a good fit. What it also says is cizikas can’t play center anymore because he’s on the decline. There are many players that switch to wing from center later in their careers because they can’t handle the responsibility anymore


Maybe it’s also easier because of the fact his line mates aren’t as old as he is? I feel like there r a lot of vets who can still be effective if their linemates r younger. You need some balance between youth and experience obviously.
Jan. 4, 2023 at 1:54 p.m.
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Maybe it’s also easier because of the fact his line mates aren’t as old as he is? I feel like there r a lot of vets who can still be effective if their linemates r younger. You need some balance between youth and experience obviously.


I sh*t on matt Martin the entire offseason but he has been the most effective player on that 4th line. Cizikas got paid 2.5 mill over 6 years to drive that line at the center position and he has been one of the worst 4th liners in the NHL. Even with Fasching on that line it was bad.
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