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Created by: Lenny54
Team: 2022-23 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 11, 2023
Published: Jan. 11, 2023
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Defense solidified and grit added...Yes, Power drops to 3rd pairing but as he gains experience and Gabrikov gets older they swap and Power moves up to 2nd pairing or maybe Power tries the right side and is paired with Gabrikov.
I didn't include Johnson in a trade, if he doesn't sign we get a 2nd round pick and move on.
Trades
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CBJ
  1. Poltapov, Prokhor [Reserve List]
  2. 2024 1st round pick (BUF)
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sign and trade 5x5
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BUF
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
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VAN
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
  2. 2023 5th round pick (BUF)
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23$82,500,000$61,939,167$0$3,620,000$20,560,833
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 2
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 11:13 a.m.
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Quoting: Lenny54
Exactly what I said in my post after your post, with 4 picks in the first 2 rounds the majority of those picks should be Dmen.
In my trades I used the 24 first, don't think Adams will trade the 23 first as I think he uses this draft to stock the system more, might use one of the seconds at best in a trade.


We think alike. I’m wondering if two of our seconds equal to a low first or would it take three? I hate to trade buffalo seconds as i think in present nhl cap hell offer sheets very valuable for right player
Jan. 11, 2023 at 11:15 a.m.
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After the big 3 just because someone is signed doesn't mean you can't upgrade the position. Gabrikov checks the boxes. Stay at home defense first D-man, gives stability to Power and the PK.
You mentioned in another post about giving up a good prospect, between the 3 forwards drafted last year, 22 and 77 already here...then throw in the B prospects like Bloom, Kisakov and Nadeau the odds are Poltapov never puts a Sabre jersey on...You can't build an entire team through the draft. Then take into consideration we have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds this year which I would hope/think the majority would be dedicated to putting Dmen in the system.
I would prefer to have the likes of a Gabrikov on the 2nd pair over Jokiharju.


I simply think these types of moves will happen this offseason
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 11:20 a.m.
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Quoting: Finn2016
We think alike. I’m wondering if two of our seconds equal to a low first or would it take three? I hate to trade buffalo seconds as i think in present nhl cap hell offer sheets very valuable for right player


Having that draft capital gives Adams and co options, could use to move back into the first round or higher in the second if there is a particular player they covet like they did with Peterka.
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 11:29 a.m.
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Quoting: Lenny54
Having that draft capital gives Adams and co options, could use to move back into the first round or higher in the second if there is a particular player they covet like they did with Peterka.


With patience and diligence Sabres future is bright.
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I simply think these types of moves will happen this offseason


If we were in the same position as last year I would agree with you about doing things in the off season
I just think if the right player is available and in the Sabres case since we are on the bubble for the wildcard spot why not do it sooner rather than later. Don't you think the kids would get a boost seeing that management is trying to help them achieve greater heights.
To me now is the time to start to sprinkle in some of the intangibles sure Mitts might be an overpay for Jeannot but that trade benefits both teams. We get the sandpaper we need and Nash gets a center considering their top line center (according to CF) isn't producing much. If Jeannot recaptures last years form it's even better
Jan. 11, 2023 at 12:16 p.m.
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No, no, no. A 1st is the rental price for Gavrikov. The sign-and-trade price is "no deal" - if we can sign him (at that rate), we keep him.

And that's a lowball in any case, what with the pick being next year instead of this, and the add being Yet Another Winger who's explicitly years away.
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 12:32 p.m.
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I don't get the point in giving up a 1st+ to get Gavrikov for 5x$5M when you already have Power & Samuelsson under team control for those 5 years. If everyone develops the way you think they are going to, that means within a couple years you're going to be paying $5M to your LD3.

I can buy the reasoning behind wanting to have another veteran to pair with Power - but at that rate, why not just throw a 4th rounder at Philly for Justin Braun or send it to Chicago for Jack Johnson? Pending UFAs who can eat some big minutes if you want to avoid overworking your younger guys while not giving up premium assets. And then you can go out and sign a Trevor van Riemsdyk or Dmitry Kulikov this summer to a $2-2.5Mish AAV to be a reliable bottom pair guy. Seems like it checks all the boxes you're looking for, but keeps the 1st and saves some cap space.
Jan. 11, 2023 at 12:43 p.m.
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I don't get the point in giving up a 1st+ to get Gavrikov for 5x$5M when you already have Power & Samuelsson under team control for those 5 years. If everyone develops the way you think they are going to, that means within a couple years you're going to be paying $5M to your LD3.

I can buy the reasoning behind wanting to have another veteran to pair with Power - but at that rate, why not just throw a 4th rounder at Philly for Justin Braun or send it to Chicago for Jack Johnson? Pending UFAs who can eat some big minutes if you want to avoid overworking your younger guys while not giving up premium assets. And then you can go out and sign a Trevor van Riemsdyk or Dmitry Kulikov this summer to a $2-2.5Mish AAV to be a reliable bottom pair guy. Seems like it checks all the boxes you're looking for, but keeps the 1st and saves some cap space.


Ive said in previous posts that if Dahlin likes right side Gavrikov amazing addition as 3rd pair shutdown player
He’s worthy of first but he’s probably available as free agent in july. Worth the wait and worth 5 x 5 million especially with our young goalies
If Dahlin likes his natural side better move Samuelson to third and find two improved right d to play with him and power
Gavrikov looking for good long term contract so undoubtedly will test market in july. Grab him then and KA has better options
Justin Braun only a rental. He was traded last year and resigned with Philly and probably does it again
Patience and next year a stronger playoff run
Jan. 11, 2023 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Finn2016
Ive said in previous posts that if Dahlin likes right side Gavrikov amazing addition as 3rd pair shutdown player
He’s worthy of first but he’s probably available as free agent in july. Worth the wait and worth 5 x 5 million especially with our young goalies
If Dahlin likes his natural side better move Samuelson to third and find two improved right d to play with him and power
He’s strictly looking for good long term contract so undoubtedly will undoubtedly test market in july


Bolding that part because I think it probably kills your thesis dead right here - Buffalo's a bubble team right now, sacrificing a first for 20 games of a guy you can just sign in July is a heavy price to pay.

And I don't love the fit with Gavrikov at $5M still - look at the books after next season. Samuelsson is signed to his $4.3M AAV; Dahlin's deal expires and you assume he gets at least $8M in an extension; Power's ELC is up and the low end cost for him is probably $3-4M on a bridge deal. Paying a guy who would be your 4th best Dman $5M is a big number, especially once you start having to extend all the young forwards winding up their ELCs.

The big wild card to me is going to be Ryan Johnson. It's totally a moot point if the Sabres sign him this spring - I'd rather give him the chance to succeed at LD3 than spend assets & cap on bringing in a guy from the outside.
Jan. 11, 2023 at 1:21 p.m.
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Edited Jan. 11, 2023 at 1:28 p.m.
Quoting: dannibalcorpse
Bolding that part because I think it probably kills your thesis dead right here - Buffalo's a bubble team right now, sacrificing a first for 20 games of a guy you can just sign in July is a heavy price to pay.

And I don't love the fit with Gavrikov at $5M still - look at the books after next season. Samuelsson is signed to his $4.3M AAV; Dahlin's deal expires and you assume he gets at least $8M in an extension; Power's ELC is up and the low end cost for him is probably $3-4M on a bridge deal. Paying a guy who would be your 4th best Dman $5M is a big number, especially once you start having to extend all the young forwards winding up their ELCs.

The big wild card to me is going to be Ryan Johnson. It's totally a moot point if the Sabres sign him this spring - I'd rather give him the chance to succeed at LD3 than spend assets & cap on bringing in a guy from the outside.


I never wanted to sign Gavrikov for a first but still think he’s worth it to a playoff team in need Not for us but compared to other d like Lindholm last year yes.
Obviously signing Ryan Johnson preferred and he’s played on his offside in university and might fit in with Power when ready. We have Johikaru signed till then
Hope Johnson does sign but time will tell
Gavrikov exceptional shutdown guy so why not have that especially with UPL and Levi young goalies. If Johnson doesn’t sign, that is. Portillo bolting and rumours he doing same. I hope not
In my opinion keeping goals and shots against good way to succeed and let Dahlin and Power drive team more on pp and 5 on 5. Improves pk which isn’t good
We’re paying Jokiharju 2.5 and he’s mediocre playing with great players. Bryson 1.85? He’s dreadful. Lub 2.75 and he’s just ok. We need upgrades to compete with the best
Jan. 11, 2023 at 1:57 p.m.
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Bolding that part because I think it probably kills your thesis dead right here - Buffalo's a bubble team right now, sacrificing a first for 20 games of a guy you can just sign in July is a heavy price to pay.

And I don't love the fit with Gavrikov at $5M still - look at the books after next season. Samuelsson is signed to his $4.3M AAV; Dahlin's deal expires and you assume he gets at least $8M in an extension; Power's ELC is up and the low end cost for him is probably $3-4M on a bridge deal. Paying a guy who would be your 4th best Dman $5M is a big number, especially once you start having to extend all the young forwards winding up their ELCs.

The big wild card to me is going to be Ryan Johnson. It's totally a moot point if the Sabres sign him this spring - I'd rather give him the chance to succeed at LD3 than spend assets & cap on bringing in a guy from the outside.


Cap goes up a smidge, Okposo's 6 mil comes off the books and the only big signing will be Cozens...the following year Dahlin will get 10 mil. Sabres have the forward depth to replace higher priced vets with ELC's. When Dahlin is due, Olofsson's contract is up, that's 4.75mil that goes toward Dahlin and an ELC takes Olofssons place. So it costs the Sabres maybe 200K to have those 2 spots covered.
If 5 mil is the right number for Gabrikov I don't see it as a big problem. Everything is timing of expiring contracts and when new contracts are due. We have enough young forwards coming up to keep the cap in line.
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 3:45 p.m.
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I think if the Jackets can sign Gavrikov at 5 x 5 then they will keep him.
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 4:07 p.m.
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True but they haven’t
Jan. 12, 2023 at 3:58 a.m.
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We think alike. I’m wondering if two of our seconds equal to a low first or would it take three? I hate to trade buffalo seconds as i think in present nhl cap hell offer sheets very valuable for right player


Those 2nds will be valuable in this upcoming draft, it's not the strongest draft for D. A lot ranked in the the late 1st into the 2nd rnd.
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Jan. 12, 2023 at 5:48 a.m.
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Those 2nds will be valuable in this upcoming draft, it's not the strongest draft for D. A lot ranked in the the late 1st into the 2nd rnd.


Simashev on left, Reinbacher,Sandin-Pellekka,Strbak,Bonk all look good and will all be in top 50
This group has huge potential
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Jan. 12, 2023 at 5:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Finn2016
Simashev on left, Reinbacher,Sandin-Pellekka,Strbak,Bonk all look good and will all be in top 50
This group has huge potential


Agree, so that Philly 2nd and ours could be important this year. If we use them in a trade, it's gotta be one that helps us now and into the future a bit.
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Jan. 12, 2023 at 6:00 a.m.
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Agree, so that Philly 2nd and ours could be important this year. If we use them in a trade, it's gotta be one that helps us now and into the future a bit.


Do you read T McGee’s posts on die by the blade? Very inciteful articles
Jan. 12, 2023 at 6:15 a.m.
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Do you read T McGee’s posts on die by the blade? Very inciteful articles


Did he come out with a new Article, haven't read anything since December
Jan. 12, 2023 at 6:22 a.m.
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Did he come out with a new Article, haven't read anything since December


No but soon i hope
 
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