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Jakob to TOR

Created by: frgsn
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 16, 2023
Published: Jan. 16, 2023
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Trades
TOR
  1. Bjugstad, Nick ($450,000 retained)
  2. Chychrun, Jakob
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$82,086,246$212,500$0$413,754
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 2
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$827,500$827,500
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$0$0
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$840,630$840,630
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 16, 2023 at 11:09 a.m.
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we miss leo k
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The ask from the Coyotes has been rumored to be more than the Hampus Lindholm package that the Ducks got last year. So let's see how this matches up (remember: Lindholm cost a 1st, two 2nds, a close to NHL ready prospect, and came with an offsetting cap contract in John Moore.)

1st is there, okay. Hirvonen probably has 2nd round value, so okay. Steeves doesn't have 2nd round value, but I'll argue that Sandin being a better asset than Urho Vaakainanen makes up for that difference.

So, while you've more or less matched the Lindholm package, Arizona's demand has been for that package to be beaten - which this package really doesn't. And that's before you get to the fact that Arizona is also sending back, and retaining, on a decent trade chip in Nick Bjugstad. Coyotes will need more to make this package happen.

I'd also argue on the other hand - why does Toronto need to make this deal in season? They're a top 5 defensive team with tons of depth (Rielly/Gio/Sandin/Mete as LHD, Brodie/Liljegren/Holl/Timmins as RHD), so spending this many assets in-season doesn't make a ton of sense to me. I think you can kick around a Chychrun deal in the summer, sure, but paying deadline prices when you really don't need the player seems like a weird use of assets.
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Jan. 16, 2023 at 11:10 a.m.
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Trading Sandin is idiotic. Swapping him for Chychrun won't make Rielly any less ****.
Jan. 16, 2023 at 11:12 a.m.
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This isn't enough for Chychrun
Jan. 16, 2023 at 11:19 a.m.
#4
Once a Kings Fan Too
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Acquiring Jakob Chychrun might be taking two steps forward, but trading Rasmus Sandin for him is at least one step back.
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Jan. 16, 2023 at 11:20 a.m.
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I’m still confused by why leafs fans REALLY want Chychrun. The reality is he doesn’t really add much defensively to their D corp, just more offense. Is he really the right defensive player you NEED to add?

I think the leafs fans are more enamored with the idea of JC, but the reality of JC would be rather disappointing if you gave up a package like this.
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Jan. 16, 2023 at 11:23 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
I’m still confused by why leafs fans REALLY want Chychrun. The reality is he doesn’t really add much defensively to their D corp, just more offense. Is he really the right defensive player you NEED to add?

I think the leafs fans are more enamored with the idea of JC, but the reality of JC would be rather disappointing if you gave up a package like this.


Nope, there is no need to spend the assets ARZ is looking for. TOR's defense is fine at the moment. Don't fix what isn't broken.
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Jan. 16, 2023 at 12:27 p.m.
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
The ask from the Coyotes has been rumored to be more than the Hampus Lindholm package that the Ducks got last year. So let's see how this matches up (remember: Lindholm cost a 1st, two 2nds, a close to NHL ready prospect, and came with an offsetting cap contract in John Moore.)

1st is there, okay. Hirvonen probably has 2nd round value, so okay. Steeves doesn't have 2nd round value, but I'll argue that Sandin being a better asset than Urho Vaakainanen makes up for that difference.

So, while you've more or less matched the Lindholm package, Arizona's demand has been for that package to be beaten - which this package really doesn't. And that's before you get to the fact that Arizona is also sending back, and retaining, on a decent trade chip in Nick Bjugstad. Coyotes will need more to make this package happen.

I'd also argue on the other hand - why does Toronto need to make this deal in season? They're a top 5 defensive team with tons of depth (Rielly/Gio/Sandin/Mete as LHD, Brodie/Liljegren/Holl/Timmins as RHD), so spending this many assets in-season doesn't make a ton of sense to me. I think you can kick around a Chychrun deal in the summer, sure, but paying deadline prices when you really don't need the player seems like a weird use of assets.


Quoting: Caniac555
I’m still confused by why leafs fans REALLY want Chychrun. The reality is he doesn’t really add much defensively to their D corp, just more offense. Is he really the right defensive player you NEED to add?

I think the leafs fans are more enamored with the idea of JC, but the reality of JC would be rather disappointing if you gave up a package like this.


Quoting: Ritzy
Nope, there is no need to spend the assets ARZ is looking for. TOR's defense is fine at the moment. Don't fix what isn't broken.



I generally would rather Leafs focus their trade assets on upgrading the scoring depth but all the hype around Chychrun has got me thinking. I haven't really done a deep dive on understanding Chychruns contributions but analysts I trust tend to think he's one of the only dmen the leafs should go after (if the cost isn't stupid).

The biggest reason why I think it makes sense to trade Sandin for Chychrun is that once you pair Reilly with Liljegren (which makes the most sense to me), your next pair would be your true shutdown pair with Brodie, and then at that point Sandin is on your third pair, which is kind of a waste. I think the pragmatic move would be to swap him for someone who can play the strong 2-way role with Brodie.
 
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