ROR and Barbashev are not getting Knies

Pretty sure it’s the other way around. Knies is a B+ Prospect not an A+ (or even and A prospect honestly) he has lots of upside and has the most value of any Leafs prospect. But he isn’t alone getting 2 impact players.

Honestly the value is there in the trade. That said I still wouldn’t do it from a Leafs stand point. They need to divide their assets to fill more gaps. One deal like this while it fills 2 holes (top 6 quality left side and third line veteran depth with lots of playoff experience) I think filling the hole in the top 4 D is more important.

You are either one of those "everything tied to the leafs is crap" people or just ill informed. Knies is very much a top prospect. Everyone says so. So no, ROR is not getting Knies and Barbashev isn't worth more than a 2nd.

No chance Leafs spend Knies + 1st on ROR & Barb. First, both are rentals and Dubas just said he wouldn’t do that. Second ROR is having a bad year, not the time you sell high. Third Barbashev is overrated and overhyped (happens at this time of year 🧐)…Engvall has more goals than him this year and his playoff stats (3G, 9P in 50 games) are downright embarrassing

I am neither ill informed or a Leafs pessimist. Knies while a good prospect with high upside, at this point without any real prove it moments remains a B+ prospect which makes him a top prospect, but not the kind of A+ prospect that has unmatched trade value. So in this case he is not going to get 2 guys on his own with impact potential even if both are having down years.

However if they do move him which I am sure is not high on the teams list I am in agreement that it will be in a different kind of trade. One that brings in a player with Term that is a much bigger impact overall both this playoff push and next season.

You are not worth talking to

Seems like you could have just said nothing rather than this reply if I’m not worth talking too. But just so I can see where you’re coming from on your stance that Knies is a can’t miss prospect, since you have offered nothing in the way of reasoning so far. What are you basing this can’t miss status on?

Knies is a high end prospect everyone says so. While I don't know how good he'll be, his ceiling is extremely high which is why everyone wants him, and why Dubas doesn't want to give him up. But let's just pretend he's a B prospect so you can get him for nothing eh?

I never said he was any kind of throw in prospect at all. I in fact said he has value and rated him as a B+ prospect which is a quite high rating for a guy that hasn’t signed with the team yet and was a second round pick in his draft year.

He has zero pedigree to call him a can’t miss (or A level prospect) he hasn’t played any pro style hockey at this point so it is hard to tell what he will be when the competition level changes, and it is that unknown quantity that means he doesn’t have A level value. Sure any team would like to have a guy that has upside and top 6 power forward potential. But to assume he would carry the value of an A/A+ prospect (reserved for guys who are top 10 picks generally and are seen as imminently entering the league with immediate potential star status) is a major reach is what I am saying.

Leading the NCAA in goals, no pedigree eh? Go away

Check your stats chief he currently sits T-7 in goal scoring and T-23 in pts. But thanks for furthering my point for me. He is a good prospect, he is not an elite prospect.

Any other shots in the dark you wanna take?

Go away troll

You might be able to get a slight bit more for Greiss, but Washington has 3 goalies they already trust so I don't see it being from them.