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Ridiculous but fun SJ Buf Trade

Created by: Kmac07
Published: Feb. 14, 2023 at 8:57 a.m.
Salary Cap: $82,500,000
Season Days: 58/185 (31%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Buffalo SabresBuffalo Sabres

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Mittelstadt, CaseyBuffalo SabresNHL-$783,784011---5282331--
Jokiharju, HenriBuffalo SabresNHL-$783,784011---30167--
Rosén, IsakWaivers ExemptBuffalo SabresMinor-$0011---0000--
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Buffalo SabresBUF)---100------
2023 2nd round pick (Logo of the Philadelphia FlyersPHI)---010------
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Buffalo SabresBUF)---100------
2025 3rd round pick (Logo of the Buffalo SabresBUF)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Karlsson, ErikSan Jose SharksNHL25%$2,704,054011---54185573--
Meier, TimoSan Jose SharksNHL-$1,881,081011---54302151--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$18,256,3192342653712
Change-$3,017,5670-1-1-2-20
Final$15,238,752 (↓)2341 (↓)64 (↓)1 (↓)5 (↓)12394786

Logo of the San Jose SharksSan Jose Sharks

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Karlsson, ErikSan Jose SharksNHL25%$8,625,000011---54185573--
Meier, TimoSan Jose SharksNHL-$6,000,000011---54302151--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Mittelstadt, CaseyBuffalo SabresNHL-$2,500,000011---5282331--
Jokiharju, HenriBuffalo SabresNHL-$2,500,000011---30167--
Rosén, IsakWaivers ExemptBuffalo SabresMinor-$0011---0000--
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Buffalo SabresBUF)---100------
2023 2nd round pick (Logo of the Philadelphia FlyersPHI)---010------
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Buffalo SabresBUF)---100------
2025 3rd round pick (Logo of the Buffalo SabresBUF)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$984,1672349723616
Change$9,625,000011220
Final$10,609,167 (↑)2350 (↑)73 (↑)5 (↑)8 (↑)16-39-47-86
Feb. 14, 2023 at 9:21 a.m.
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glarson17
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Still missing a good piece or two going back to San Jose but yeah that would be some trade
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Feb. 14, 2023 at 10:16 a.m.
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Quoting: glarson17
Still missing a good piece or two going back to San Jose but yeah that would be some trade


The equivalent of three 1st's and three 2nds seems fair for Meier and a massive cap dump. Yes Karlsson is amazing but that contract for four more years is definitely something SJ would like to move on from. And because of that I don't see Buffalo accepting this. They have to pay Dahlin and Power.
Feb. 14, 2023 at 11:13 a.m.
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Edited Feb. 14, 2023 at 11:19 a.m.
Replace Rosen with a better prospect or another 1st and San Jose might accept.

Quoting: Narwhal90
The equivalent of three 1st's and three 2nds seems fair for Meier and a massive cap dump. Yes Karlsson is amazing but that contract for four more years is definitely something SJ would like to move on from. And because of that I don't see Buffalo accepting this. They have to pay Dahlin and Power.


More like 2 firsts and 3 seconds. There's nothing in there worth a third 1st... It has to be a 1st or a single other asset worth a first you can't just count several lesser assets as another 1st.
Karlsson at 25% retained isn't a massive cap dump. 25% is enough to bring his cap hit down to an acceptable level.
Feb. 14, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Replace Rosen with a better prospect or another 1st and San Jose might accept.



More like 2 firsts and 3 seconds. There's nothing in there worth a third 1st... It has to be a 1st or a single other asset worth a first you can't just count several lesser assets as another 1st.
Karlsson at 25% retained isn't a massive cap dump. 25% is enough to bring his cap hit down to an acceptable level.


Well you have two first round picks and the 14th overall pick in 2021. So yes that value would be three firsts.
Feb. 14, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Narwhal90
The equivalent of three 1st's and three 2nds seems fair for Meier and a massive cap dump. Yes Karlsson is amazing but that contract for four more years is definitely something SJ would like to move on from. And because of that I don't see Buffalo accepting this. They have to pay Dahlin and Power.


Quoting: Narwhal90
The equivalent of three 1st's and three 2nds seems fair for Meier and a massive cap dump. Yes Karlsson is amazing but that contract for four more years is definitely something SJ would like to move on from. And because of that I don't see Buffalo accepting this. They have to pay Dahlin and Power.


Since when is a 100 point defenseman a massive cap dump, especially when $3 mil is retained a year? Then if this is the offer take out Meier
Feb. 14, 2023 at 12:14 p.m.
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Since when is a 100 point defenseman a massive cap dump, especially when $3 mil is retained a year? Then if this is the offer take out Meier


Because it's still 9 mil on the books for that team. NHL is a hard cap league and most teams spend at the cap. Buffalo is one of the few teams that can handle that.

He will be 33 in may with 4 years remaining. He hasn't played 60 games in a season for the last 4 years.

MAX PACIORETTY was traded for nothing because of his cap. I'm not saying he's worthless. Just saying don't be surprised if he is evert traded it's for low value.
Feb. 14, 2023 at 12:25 p.m.
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Because it's still 9 mil on the books for that team. NHL is a hard cap league and most teams spend at the cap. Buffalo is one of the few teams that can handle that.

He will be 33 in may with 4 years remaining. He hasn't played 60 games in a season for the last 4 years.

MAX PACIORETTY was traded for nothing because of his cap. I'm not saying he's worthless. Just saying don't be surprised if he is evert traded it's for low value.


He’s clearly health now and teams are intrigued by that. Also vegas will Vegas, San Jose isn’t giving anyone away for free
Feb. 14, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.
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He’s clearly health now and teams are intrigued by that. Also vegas will Vegas, San Jose isn’t giving anyone away for free


He's definitely healthy now, but what about next season or the season after. I like Karlsson alot just saying his contract and NMC really make trading him for good value really hard.

Vegas might want him but they have no cap space.
Feb. 14, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.
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He's definitely healthy now, but what about next season or the season after. I like Karlsson alot just saying his contract and NMC really make trading him for good value really hard.

Vegas might want him but they have no cap space.


Vegas was in reference to pacioretty
Feb. 14, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.
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Vegas was in reference to pacioretty


Oh my bad bro. Miss read that. And yes Vegas will Vegas
Feb. 14, 2023 at 1:14 p.m.
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I still think Karlsson is a bad fit for Buffalo. Meier would be amazing for them.
There's too many cooks in Buffalo's kitchen on the blueline. Dahlin already runs the show in Buf. Karlsson needs to be top chef. e.g. Burns and Karlsson didn't work as well as people thought it would
 
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