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3 way trade

Created by: sharcuda22
Team: 2022-23 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 21, 2023
Published: Feb. 21, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
forgot that first was unprotected - prolly gotta be a lesser pick if they are parting with lane... who is prolly also untouchable
Trades
1.
SJS
    PLD -> Montreal
    2.
    SJS
    1. Hutson, Lane [Reserve List]
    2. Monahan, Sean
    3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
    MTL
    3.
    SJS
    1. 2024 4th round pick (PIT)
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
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    Logo of the FLA
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SEA
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the CBJ
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the VAN
    2024
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the VGK
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    2025
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$82,500,000$77,850,001$0$425,000$4,649,999
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $894,167$894,167
    LW
    RFA - 4
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $6,750,000$6,750,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $6,375,000$6,375,000
    C, LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $750,000$750,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $950,000$950,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    C
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $750,000$750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $1,050,000$1,050,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $750,000$750,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $10,000,000$10,000,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    LD/RD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $762,500$762,500
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 4
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $835,000$835,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    RW, C
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $1,500,000$1,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000$250K)
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $4,725,000$4,725,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $750,000$750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1

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    Feb. 21, 2023 at 12:54 p.m.
    #26
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    Quoting: Campabee
    The issue is Hutson, he is looking like he should have gone top 10 in the draft last year so basically its 2 top 10 picks and Monahan (who reports suggest could net an additional 1st) for an RAF players rights, it's just not going to happen. Also the Jets can't move their top center just before the playoffs without getting back an equal center, they might do it at the draft but then Hutson and Monahan won't likely be part of the deal either.


    Bro Monahan is not betting a 1st lol they is once again hurt
    Feb. 21, 2023 at 12:57 p.m.
    #27
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    Quoting: glarson17
    Bro Monahan is not betting a 1st lol they is once again hurt


    1. No one is betting anything here
    2. Not sure why you think he is hurt "again" he is still recovering and yes he missed practice yesterday but it was not specified if it was due to his ongoing injury or if it was simply a maintenance day
    Feb. 21, 2023 at 12:59 p.m.
    #28
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    Quoting: Billy739
    Well thats confusing but ill take your word for it , trying to confirm it is a ton of reading anyways as CBA stuff you can re-read for days and not fully understand right way.
    I dont think the only issue is money i just thought i could exploit it like teams are trying to do with SJS and Meier.
    I think i get it now though , well except the Timo Meier rule part lol

    In the end i think PLD will leave because he wants to
    No one as an RFA years before they're in line to become a UFA publicly state's they'll be testing Free Agency like that unless they want out.

    Kotkanemi was pretty clear on wanting out and that was when Suzuki leap frogged him
    First chance he got , he was out.


    Question becomes like always does WPG's GM wait to long and fail to profit off it?
    I mean its what seperates WPG from teams like CHI,LAK,TBL and PIT .
    PIT didnt wait for Sutter to crap out completly , WPG did with Perrault.
    PIT got a player who was the center of HBK cup line that had his winger lead the playoffs in scoring for the cup

    All because their GM saw Sutter struggling and moved on to a seemingly lesser player at the time.
    Those are the moves WPG arent prepared to move with their current GM anymore then MTL was under Bergavin .
    Both GM's lack the spine to make impact mid season moves that mattered on a consistent basis. Great deals in the off season but ghosts during the season.
    Both also cheaped out on playoff runs that coulda resulted in a cup for either team.

    I think if PLD is to stay , your GM has to go to make it happen.
    All that guys accomplished was wasting the Prime years of many good players during his 2 core builds
    Dont let him waste all Hellebyuk's Prime years like we sat by and did with Price/MB


    For the wasting the prime part, I could see that as a possible wild card that no one is really thinking about. If say, the Jets have a good run this summer, then they could double down, keep PLD for a year if that is all he is willing to do and give it one last shot next year. Use PLD as an own rental and let him walk. That would be a huge gamble and would result in Winnipeg likely losing Scheif, Helly and PLD for nothing the following year. But if they win it all, it's worth it.

    If Helly and Scheif tell Chevy they are willing to resign the following year as long as the Jets aren't rebuilding and PLD still won't sign mid to long term contract, then the Jets may opt to trade PLD for a more "roster player" type trade as opposed to a futures heavy type trade, to try and extend the window as long as possible with Scheif and Helly.

    If the Jets went that route, that may put Montreal out of the running as they don't have the roster players that Winnipeg would require.

    It will be interesting.
    Feb. 21, 2023 at 1:02 p.m.
    #29
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    Quoting: Billy739
    I get it now
    That's slick negotiating by his Agent.


    Good agenting. Bad GM-ing.
    Feb. 21, 2023 at 1:08 p.m.
    #30
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    Quoting: Campabee
    1. No one is betting anything here
    2. Not sure why you think he is hurt "again" he is still recovering and yes he missed practice yesterday but it was not specified if it was due to his ongoing injury or if it was simply a maintenance day


    Was auto corrected from netting lol
    Feb. 21, 2023 at 1:15 p.m.
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    Quoting: glarson17
    Was auto corrected from netting lol


    Yeah the first point was meant as a joke to lighten the mood of the convo
     
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